Project Eternity [Kickstarter - Obsidian]

Lucasart · September 19, 2012, 3:51pm

Ottimo, ora i fanatici di Steamcaccapupù saranno contenti e non avranno più scuse per non supportarlo

TucoBenedicto · September 19, 2012, 4:06pm

Se ricordo bene, in un'intervista di qualche tempo fa dicevano che l'intero Baldur's Gate 2 era costato circa tre milioni di dollari all'epoca.

In ogni caso vorrei far notare questq risposta, da un'intervista di Gamebanshee del 2010 al capoccia di Obsidian:

più...

GB: It'd be great to see you guys go and do your own thing. I mean, look at the success of the Infinity Engine. I'd like to see BioWare release it to the community or let you guys go crazy with it with a small team of five or six guys. You wouldn’t have to sell millions of copies. Maybe just do a small project, because there’s a lot of people out there who would just love to play a new Infinity Engine-style game again.

Feargus: I don’t want to say it’s a remark on our industry or anything like that, but I remember when we started up Obsidian and I was trying to talk about a lot of different kinds of games. And one of them was to go off and do something like that. Part of it at the time - I think it would maybe be a little bit different now - but part of it was just the PC was a persona non grata in the 2003-2004 timeframe.

Everybody just wanted console. Console this, console that. The publishers, they’re seeing that GameStop doesn’t carry much PC. It’s not sexy anymore. WoW is taking all the money. I don’t know, I think it might be easier now just because you have Steam, you have Direct2Drive, and all these other distribution methods to do something like that.

Have you played A Farewell to Dragons?

GB: It's part of my Steam collection, but I haven’t tried it yet.

Feargus: Yeah. See, it’s... it’s not great. That’s kind of the gist I got out of it. I tried because I was thinking it was going to be kind of a Baldur's Gate-style/Infinity Engine kind of game and it didn’t turn out that way. There are elements that are good. It’s just kind of rough. But for a couple million dollars, I know we could make a really good Infinity Engine game.

P.S. Strano che nessuno qui stia dando di matto perché hanno annunciato che il setting prevede anche le armi da fuoco.

Spoiler

Personalmente a dirla tutta non solo non mi dà fastidio ma rende di colpo l'ambientazione fantasy molto più interessante.

Niymiae · September 19, 2012, 4:14pm

D'accordissimo sul tuo spoiler.

Aanok · September 19, 2012, 4:29pm

Comunque non so se ci sia da ridere o piangere su quell'intervista da GB...

Bard · September 19, 2012, 4:54pm

Le armi da fuoco son diventate ormai uno standard nelle ambientazioni fantasy, colpa di warcraft

acct-eliminato.62 · September 19, 2012, 5:08pm

Immagino siano compresi anche i 20$, sarebbe assurdo il contrario.
Cmq ottimo, io lo sbocco da loro se posso.

JB · September 19, 2012, 5:08pm

Sono seriamente indeciso tra il 65+15 e la prima offerta di CE.

Jehan · September 19, 2012, 5:09pm

da quel che hanno detto comunque si tratta di armi da fuoco rudimentali come quelle del '300 - '400, niente moschetti napoleonici. personalmente a me piacciono setting di entrambi i tipi, tanto più che sono appassionato di storia medievale sia del periodo delle crociate che del tardo medioevo. Le uniche cose che mi urtano sono la trimurti nani-orchi-elfi (srsly, meglio solo umani a questo punto...) o lo steampunk che non riesco a digerire

comunque le rivelazioni sul comportamento dei publisher sono alquanto illuminanti. Ho idea che il loro management si butti a capofitto sull'ultima "moda" del settore senza neanche fare troppi calcoli di costi/benefici.

acct-eliminato.62 · September 19, 2012, 5:32pm

Ah ecco, arrivato update sul kickstarter.

DRM Free Option

You asked and we are delivering. In conjunction with GOG, we are going to offer a DRM free version of the game for our Kickstarter Backers. When the campaign ends, you will be able to choose whether you would like a key from GOG or Steam. For our Mac friends, we are still working on a DRM free option, since GOG does not currently support the Mac. Oh, and the great guys at GOG are having a special right now on all of the great Infinity Engine games, so check that out as well.

Update #4 - Digital Tiers, DRM, and Add-Ons Update

greendevil · September 19, 2012, 5:46pm

TucoBenedicto · September 19, 2012, 7:57pm

Dopo aver letto questo breve articolo su come è nata la collaborazione tra Obsidian e Gog mi è venuta l'idea malata:

secondo me Obsidian dovrebbe cercare di raggiungere un accordo temporaneo con CD Projekt RED e promettere di arruolare l'armor designer di The Witcher 2 come "extended goal".
Un po' come ha fatto fargo con Avellone.
C'è gente che uscirebbe pazza e li ricoprirebbe di soldi.

Niymiae · September 19, 2012, 8:41pm

Gli update mi stanno facendo cedere.

Jehan · September 19, 2012, 9:50pm

la partnership con gog creata su twitter è una figata. Datemi un pizzicotto

acct-eliminato.62 · September 19, 2012, 9:53pm

Ma è bellissimo

E' ammore

acct-eliminato.66 · September 19, 2012, 10:02pm

Bene, ora ci sono anch'io. \o/

Cmq rinnovo le mie perplessità sul ks:
"$65 +
Previous reward tier + BOX VERSION OF PROJECT ETERNITY. The boxed copy will include a DVD version of the game and a printed manual. This is in addition to the digital version of the game (so 2 copies total!). Please add $15 for international shipping."

80 dollari per una scatolata, quando li stai "aiutando" a tirar su il progetto.
Per non parlare delle collector's.

Drest · September 20, 2012, 12:36pm

eh vabbeh, prezzo standard purtroppo. aggiungici l'iva anche.

The.End · September 20, 2012, 12:42pm

*

fantastica

Kaldais · September 20, 2012, 12:46pm

acct-eliminato.66 · September 20, 2012, 2:37pm

Eh vabbè, nata su twitter... avevano la gente che gli scriveva per chiedergli piattaforme diverse da steam (tra cui io).

Jehan · September 21, 2012, 6:49am

nuovo update fresco fresco

Update #5 - Souls, Technology, and Adventuring Companies

Developing setting and atmosphere are very important to us at Obsidian. We try to build worlds that are believable even when they are fantastic. To do that, we strive to create people, cultures, and conflicts that are both strongly defined and heavily interconnected. In observing community discussion about the game, we've noted two recurring requests for more detail: on the nature of souls and on the level of this world's technology. This update deals less with culture details and more specifically with those two topics since they are fundamental to the way the world works. There's also some information at the end about a new $5,000 backer tier we're excited to introduce. Thanks for reading!
N.B.: I know I said I'd talk about mechanics today. I forgot that I had already said I'd talk about technology earlier. Sorry! The next update I do will talk about non-combat skills the nature of classes in Project Eternity.

Souls
As we hinted at in our pitch videos, souls are A Big Deal in Project Eternity's world. The mortal world has not unlocked all of the secrets of how souls "work" and differing schools of metaphysical philosophy can be found in virtually every culture. What is known is that sapient souls move through an endless cycle of waking life and purgatorial slumber among the gods. Often this slumber lasts for years of "real" time, but occasionally it is brief, with a soul immediately moving on to a new life.
Far from being a flawless process, souls are subject to "fracturing" over generations, transforming in myriad ways, and not quite... working right. Some cultures and individuals place a high value on "strong" souls, souls with a "pure" lineage, "awakened" souls that remember past lives, "traveled" souls that have drifted through the divine realms, or those that co-exist with other souls in one body. However, the opposite is also true, resulting in negative discrimination and sometimes outright violence.
Through a variety of techniques (e.g. martial training, meditation, ritualistic evocation, mortification of the flesh), some individuals are able to draw upon the energy of their soul to accomplish extraordinary feats. These abilities range from the mundanely superhuman to the explosively magical. Having a strong soul seems to make this easier, but sometimes even people with fragmented souls are able to accomplish the extraordinary. The individual's body seems to act as a conduit and battery for this power, drawing in replenishment from seemingly omnipresent "fields" of unbound spiritual energy in the world around them.
Thinkers, spiritualists, and scientists of the world have theorized for thousands of years about the nature and purpose of this process, but others have turned to prayer for answer. Rather than illuminate the presumed higher purpose of this cycle, the gods have obfuscated the truth, at times spreading cosmological lies, pitting believers and empowered chosen agents against each other, and tacitly approving the prejudices of their followers to maintain power.
Whatever the fundamental nature of mortal souls is, the people of the world accept the reality of what they have observed: that all mortal bodies contain perceptible energy bound to the individual, and that once they die, their energy will move forward in the eternal cycle that they are all a part of -- that as far as they know, they have always been a part of.

Technology
The cultures of Project Eternity are in a variety of different technological states. Though some remote civilizations are still in the equivalent of Earth's Stone Age or Bronze Age, most large civilizations are in the equivalent of Earth's high or late Middle Ages. The most aggressive and powerful civilizations are in the early stages of what would be our early modern period, technologically, even if they are not culturally undergoing "Renaissance"-style changes.
For most large civilizations, this means that all of the core arms and armor of medieval warfare have reached a high level of development: full suits of articulated plate armor, a variety of military swords, war hammers, polearms, longbows, crossbows, and advanced siege weaponry. Architecturally, these cultures also employ technologies found in Earth's Gothic structures, allowing them to create towering vertical structures.
The most recent technologies seeing use in the world are ocean-going carrack-style ships and black powder firearms (notably absent: the printing press). Cultures with large navies and mercantile traffic are exploring the world, which has led to contact with previously-unknown lands and societies and settlement in new lands. Despite their intense drive, these explorers have been restricted from aggressive long-range exploration by monstrous sea creatures that pose a lethal, seemingly insurmountable threat to even the stoutest, most well-armed ships.
Black powder firearms are of the single-shot wheellock variety. Largely considered complex curiosities, these weapons are not employed extensively by military forces. Their long reload times are considered a liability in battles against foes that are too monstrous to drop with a single volley, foes that fly or move at high speed, and foes that have the power of invisibility. Despite this, some individuals do employ firearms for one specific purpose: close range penetration of the arcane veil, a standard magical defense employed by wizards. The arcane veil is powerful, but it does not react well to the high-velocity projectiles generated by arquebuses and handguns. As a result, more wizards who previously relied on the veil and similar abjurations have turned to traditional armor for additional defense.

New $5,000 Tier
Bam! We started with a $5,000 tier that allowed the backer to set up an inn and receive some additional items. Fortunately or unfortunately, that sold out almost immediately. We've come up with a new tier that is aimed toward (but not limited to!) the forum communities that have shown (and continue to show) us so much support. Some of the most fun we've had as players, DMs, and game designers has happened when we got to deal with a group of enemy adventurers -- mercenaries, thugs, whatever you want to call them -- squaring off against the party. This new tier allows you to build a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude to throw at the player. We've also switched around a few of the bonuses in this tier, giving out more digital downloads. We can't wait to see what you come up with.
That's all for this update! Tomorrow we'll have some words from Chris Jones about the technology we're using to build Project Eternity.