[QUOTE=Cater;14513477]http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9523786
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/pederf-h/2011.04.26.10.59.59.jpg
Da notare l’orario… che sfiga il tizio..
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hull con damage control su una nyx sono 1,87m hp effettivi
per tirarlo giù in 3 secondi ti serve un dps di 600k hp/s
su quella killmail ci sono 4 titan, 18 mothership, 18 dread
cioè grossomodo 350k hp/s di danno
non avrebbe dovuto morire
[QUOTE=Lofe_69;14513532]NC non è certo conosciuta per la skill dei singoli piloti e di fatto non sono mai riusciti ad impiegare tattiche del genere che prevedono il coordinamento di diversi gruppi, diversi FC etc. [/QUOTE]
Durante una guerra la NC ha sempre una crescita esponenziale nel livello delle sue fleet. All’inizio sono ridicoli e prendono sempre schiaffi a destra e a manca, poi cominciano a copiare gli avversari e a presentarsi con numeri sempre più alti.
Stai sicuro che quasi tutti quei carebear sanno usare un Tengu e entro la fine della guerra i 100 tengu dei PL si troveranno davanti i 400 tengu della NC 
O almeno, questo è quello che è sempre successo in passato. Ora non so bene qual’è lo stato della NC.
[QUOTE=Lofe_69;14513597]perchè usare i tengu ? fanno come l’altra volta che per 100 ahacs usavano 400 capitals [/QUOTE]
Mi sa che sto periodo non gli conviene tirare fuori le capital.
Comunque minchia stavo vedendo la mappa per vedere cosa è successo su eve in questi ultimi mesi, più di metà dello 0.0 è in mano ai russi.
Welcome to Bot Online.
) però mi pare di capire che in EvE, di fatto, ci siano i "russi" contro tutto il resto (aka americani?), insomma le due superpotenze di sempre ma perchè qualche giorno fa leggevo di un italiano nel chan italiano che parlava appunto di aver usato questi "bot" facendo oltre 100m ISK al giorno bho
i russi hanno formato grandi alleanze renters, vista la vastita' di territorio che hanno utilizzano questi sistemi per affittarli alle corporazioni, di preciso nel dettaglio nn so come funziona, ma molto alla buona, metti caso che sei in una corp di 30 giocatori e volete fare solo pve, entrate in una di queste ally, vi danno un sistema, e ogni mese dovete pagare una quota.
visto che, grosso modo dove cè pve cè bot (per dire)
e prendendo in considerazione le loro ally in questione:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Shadow_of_xXDEATHXx
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/SOLAR_WING
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/White_Angels.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/RED_Citizens
vediamo che solo queste 4 ally hanno 450 sistemi in totale con sov, quindi un bel paradiso per chi vuol bottare.
Sinceramente nn so come funziona bene, anche perchè sono molto negato a usare il pc, però mi pare che ci siano 2 grandi distinzioni:
Bot: un programma dove svolge in automatico il lavoro
Macro: un programma dove devi impostare te i click del tuo mouse, quindi una volta impostato fa per conto suo seguendo la traccia lasciata
I bot con certezza nn penso che si riesca a riconoscerli e ce ne sono di tutti i tipi, da quello che smina asteroidi, quello per killare i ratti, fino ad arrivare a quello del market ( che dio li fulminasse all'istante).
E hanno contribuito a rendere il gioco una merda in tutto per tutto.
[QUOTE=Lofe_69;14514240]I russi hanno sempre utilizzato i bot (o sistemi di RMT) a livello di corp e alleanze sistematicamente e spudoratamente.
Gli altri bottano uguale se non di più (le regioni migliori sono a nord e ad ovest, non certo sud/est) ma a livello personale, o sistematicamente a livello di alleanze attraverso i renters, e cercano in ogni modo di nascondere la cosa.[/QUOTE]
Speriamo allora che dopo il tread “Grazie Fenix” aprirai un bel " Grazie Russi" . Magari imparati qualche parola per una migliore infiltrazione. Penso che aspettiamo tutti un nuovo evento del genere.
stage ONE, completed :P
Titans - 3 NC Titans Destroyed
Supercarriers - 2 NC Supercarriers Destroyed
Carriers - 108 NC Carriers Destroyed - 11 PL Carriers Lost
Dreadnoughts - 30 NC Dreadnoughts Destroyed
Battleships - 1,031 NC Battleships Destroyed - 68 PL Battleships Lost
Tengus - 20 PL Tengus Lost
Stations - 11 NC Stations Captured by DRF/PL
Technetium Moons - Roughly 40 NC Technetium Moons Captured by DRF/PL
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Inаpprоprіate station name
From: GM Horse
Sent: 2011.03.17 17:09
To: Shamis Orzoz,
Hello, The station name COCKS-COCKS-COCKS-COCKS is not appropriate. Please rename the station to something more suitable. Best regards, GM Horse ΕvE Online Customer Service Support[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tortugone;14523001]che differenza c’è tra “lost” e “destroyed” ? 
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perdi la sov, o una stazione, distruggi una pos o un ihub
[QUOTE=Blowjobby;14523015]perdi la sov, o una stazione, distruggi una pos o un ihub[/QUOTE]
ma li si parla di navi, asp ho capito adesso, LOFE è dei PL, le “lost” sono le loro navi scoppiate.
[QUOTE=Tortugone;14523145]ma li si parla di navi, asp ho capito adesso, LOFE è dei PL, le “lost” sono le loro navi scoppiate.[/QUOTE]
ah scusa non avevo visionato
si è come hai detto tu ^^
lol RAWR
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Ronan Teisdari
RAWRians!!!
This week, we saw an introduction of a new front in the DRF war. -A-/Coven/Stain Εmpіre/ROL have decided that they were gоing to go аfter the RMT Bot army themselves.
To date‚ they have aborted approx 10 Titans, and a handful of SC’s. There are reports that they have even cancelled builds in progress. They do not seem to defending their CSAA’s. The have also started a full on assault of their station systems. Several stations have already been RF’d.
This week, we’ve had a mixed bag of results. Tuesday, we did a full CTA and were able to get 1500 people on TS. That’s excellent!! We know we have the people to do what we need to do. Unfortunately, all of our pre-planted SBU’s had been killed and we had to redeploy them. Bottom line, we weren’t able to truly capitalize on our numbers.
Wednesday, we had better luck. SBU’s stuck in F-D and IR-, so we were able to make a play for them.
http://kb.morsus-mihi.org/?a=kill_relat … id=9449245
This was a good win, and if we had the same #'s and FC’s each and every day, we’d be well on our way to getting things done.
Thursday, we went to help br1ck save the D-I station system. We were winning the fight, then they had enough and dropped supers on us. Nothing we could do, so back to medical bay we went. Oh yeah, we had this awesome bomber fleet out all day as well. There was about 60-90 in fleet at various times, and they went around and popped SBU’s. We save 3 stations from going into RF by doing this. So after DT if you’re on, check for bomber fleets
Today ZLZ’s Ihub armor timer came out. PL/DRF were able to get 25ish Titans and 60ish SC’s into system before us. By the time we were ready to roll, we were out numbered 2:1, not even counting the supers. We told our capitals to stand down, and thought about standing down the fleet as well. The fleet was looking for a fight, so in we went. Due to the odds… we should have been welped completely.
Manks Girl and LordDragon did a great job. http://kb.morsus-mihi.org/?a=kill_relat … id=9465491
We were able to take out a lot, and probably would have won the fight if it had not been for their supers support. It’s a great showing as to what we can do still during US TZ. Just add in supers, and we are back at the top of the game.
In the NC, we have some 400 supers spread across the alliances (There’s over 100 just in RAWR alone). It’s time to mobilize and fully utilize their potential, so we can do an offensive right and take back the space that was lost and hit back at those who came for us.
7-K station comes out Saturday (20:20) and ZLZ comes out on Monday (02:00). Let’s show them what we got, and how we operate.
All alliances have been giving staging assignments.
RAWR should be:
Subcaps - QFF
Capitals - QFF
Supers - QFF/O-L (Don’t move solo, and always use a scout)
Make sure you and your ships are in the staging area’s so fleets can pick up and go.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [TGRAD] Felix Lynx
Our only real problem is that NC cap pilots are scared to login.
It used to be that we could put out a Jabber alert for caps and get 255 pilots in fleet within an hour.
Now we get 50.
If we stop being scared of fielding the caps (titans/sc’s/dreads/carriers), we will win this fight.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Irumani
No, I think people are tired of Jabber alerts.
I stopped login on Jabber after being spammed 5 times in less than one hour, two times for a “test” and 3 times for the same fleet (in less than 5 minutes).
Seriously, whoever is spamming Jabber with alerts should be punched in the dick.
If we have ops posted here and/or on eve mails soon enough, we’ll have numbers. That’s all.
Εdіt - I’ll add this. Tо hаve numbers in fleet‚ we need those :
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [SHIVA] Kronos Hopeslayer
Unless we start to fully utilize our supercap fleet DRF/PL will continue to overwhelm us with theirs. I’m not sure at what point the line will be drawn and we’ll start taking this seriously enough again, but DRF/PL already hit QFF once this week and successfully took down the jammer. That means we’re vulnerable in Tribute, and if/when ZLZ falls QFF will be next. I’m hoping that spring break is wrapping up, and we’ll get our numbers back up again, if not at least our fights will be much closer to home…[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [Shiva] Ezekiel Sulastin
I know this is going to be filed under “lolZekeIsRaging” but are you drunk off your ass or something to be so mentally dim? Were you even ON last night? Our MilCom Ronan posting an actual LIST of why we didn’t enter ZLZ at all is probably the single best thing he could have done‚ especially since some FC said they had 300 supers instead of the mere ~140 (didn’t count them yet, sorry) they did bring. Hopefully it’ll wake people up: “Oh crap, they’re in Supercarrier jump range of quite a bit of trib and Titan jump range of QFF and 2CG, they really CAN start besieging Tribute now! Maybe I should start getting my fellow man to wake up!”
But hey, that’s ok, continue to pretend it’s not happening. Heck, our supers stand down all the time (can’t imagine why) so go ahead and sell the thing, your buying of carriers will really help defend the North! You tell those silly fools in leadership not to give us accurate updates but instead fluffy propaganda, as hearing things through the grapevine is definitely better for our mental well being![/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by [Fusen] Yoyo6000
the whole reason we dont have numbers in the supers is because we do stand down every dammed time.
out of the last 28 hours worth of sitting in fleets with my super, we have been out of our starting system for 1 hour. and you wonder where all of them have gone? they carnt be assed to log in for a few hours to be told there not needed, so they are now just assuming there not needed anyways and not logging in, in the first place.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [FUSΕN] Raіnus Max
Lоl, insults. I wаsn’t there I have far more important things to sort in RL than sitting for hours waiting to fight only to be told we’re going to let the Russians take yet another system. Ronan didn’t post a reason for not entering ZLZ he posted A LIST and thats it and as I wasn’t there that list to me appears to be our chief military guy ‘inadvertently’ scaring people off with ‘this what we have to fight against’. To the normal level guys that list of supercaps isn’t a goal its a nasty little reminder what we have to deal with and TBQFH the fact we aren’t dealing with it. Not everyone has access to exactly the same information
I dont give a rats arse whats going on at the top‚ but if after nearly losing 2 regions the majority of the NC isnt in full combat mode then there is something rotten going on and its needs fixing now not when QFF or H-W or UMI is sieged. If we dont we might as well start learning Russian.
And for those of you that keep saying attack delve or the dronelands. You need to catch up on things, the DRF dont give a toss about those system they are pinning all hopes on killing the NC and taking our space. If we fuck off and SBU their space we are giving them our space.
If Russia invaded Alaska would you really wait until they are with in striking distance of Washington DC before you mobilise properly?[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by [TGRAD] Kuurus
Just because I’m bored on a bank holiday monday and procrastinating from doing work… I make it:
~97 supercarriers (zero Hel 
)
~39 titans.
[QUOTE]Quote:
[Shiva] Εzekіel Sulastin wrоte:
… fools in leаdership not to give us accurate updates but instead fluffy propaganda …[/QUOTE]
Personally I’d prefer accurate explanations for why event X or Y did/didn’t happen as opposed to “we will next time!!” rhetoric. Facts are facts. I’d rather be fed hard facts through my alliance than have to rely on third party sites like Kugu/failheap/coad where things get distorted.
For what its worth I’d be interested in the possibly of shifting from a purely defensive force and start pondering offensive fleets‚ or at least enlist the assistance of some additional blues to hit multiple targets at once. If we can force them to split their super-fleet between multiple high-priority targets they will be much easier to handle. Is there any reason why we can’t go around hitting other targets of opportunity while they’re busy blobbing the shit out of a single system?
Good old Jean-luc picard said it best in a similar situation: http://youtu.be/cGF1NP-FrCU :mrgreen:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [TGRAD] Puslemyne
Well I hate to say I told you so but I told you so. In alliance chat yesterday afternoon I suggested we start to flood the system with ships. I was told to “Shut up”. The following is the chat log.
[ 2011.04.24 17:59:42 ] Pulsemyne > Personally I think we should start stuffing the system full of people now
[ 2011.04.24 17:59:49 ] Pulsemyne > beat the reds to the punch
[ 2011.04.24 18:00:10 ] Sinistrus Fatalis > agreed
[ 2011.04.24 18:00:13 ] darkecho > its to late
[ 2011.04.24 18:00:15 ] darkecho > for that
[ 2011.04.24 18:00:36 ] Mike Right > rus rus is in there already??
[ 2011.04.24 18:00:43 ] darkecho > 500+
[ 2011.04.24 18:00:46 ] darkecho > with supers
[ 2011.04.24 18:00:48 ] darkecho > loged
[ 2011.04.24 18:00:49 ] Pulsemyne > yeah but if we start now then hat means MR russian has a very very long day ahead of him
[ 2011.04.24 18:00:55 ] Pink Fuzz > logged doesn’t help them
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:03 ] Pink Fuzz > its only if they are logged on that it makes a difference
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:12 ] Pink Fuzz > logging in after the system is stuffed gets you the same laggy performance
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:25 ] darkecho > pink ur right
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:30 ] darkecho > ist what was decided on
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:36 ] darkecho > well see
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:40 ] darkecho > just be there guys
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:44 ] darkecho > playing this by ear
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:49 ] Sinistrus Fatalis > think we should jam the system and stuff it now
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:54 ] Pulsemyne > so what would you rather do. Wait for 5 hours until the wake up and swtuff more supers in the system or do it now and fuck them over for once
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:58 ] darkecho > u cant jam it
[ 2011.04.24 18:01:58 ] Sinistrus Fatalis > after all isn’t that the reason we bother owning a system?
[ 2011.04.24 18:02:01 ] darkecho > no i hub
[ 2011.04.24 18:02:08 ] HotWitch > is there a fleet for qff repair?
[ 2011.04.24 18:02:10 ] Pulsemyne > jam it with people
[ 2011.04.24 18:02:15 ] darkecho > guys
[ 2011.04.24 18:02:27 ] darkecho > if u have questions u can ask me in shiva channel later
[ 2011.04.24 18:03:19 ] darkecho > ok im there now
[ 2011.04.24 18:03:24 ] darkecho > i r to lazy tp type
[ 2011.04.24 18:03:47 ] Pulsemyne > well if you do it later you can wave goodbye to ZLZ and look forward to lsoing supers IF you try and jump in
[ 2011.04.24 18:04:44 ] darkecho > just be there
[ 2011.04.24 18:04:50 ] darkecho > that is all
[ 2011.04.24 18:05:04 ] Pulsemyne > when we try and form up later they’ll just log in their supers, drop drones and watch as our fleet gets black screened and slowly (very slowly) dies
[ 2011.04.24 18:05:35 ] darkecho > shut up
[ 2011.04.24 18:05:37 ] darkecho > lol
[ 2011.04.24 18:05:52 ] darkecho > all we can do is see what happens
[ 2011.04.24 18:06:02 ] darkecho > getting in isnt a option with no real POS’s
[ 2011.04.24 18:06:04 ] darkecho > etc etc
[ 2011.04.24 18:06:33 ] LiMu Bai > why waste ships then
[ 2011.04.24 18:06:52 ] darkecho > come to shiav chan if u wanna whine to me
[ 2011.04.24 18:06:57 ] darkecho > ill talk to u in TS
[ 2011.04.24 18:07:19 ] LiMu Bai > im already whining in 4 different channels
[ 2011.04.24 18:07:20 ] Pulsemyne > its not a whine just…an opinion of mine.
[ 2011.04.24 18:07:22 ] LiMu Bai > sry
[ 2011.04.24 18:07:41 ] Master Akira > it reads like a whine but its ok :P
[ 2011.04.24 18:07:44 ] darkecho > then shut up in here please
So…yeah. At least we didn’t jump the supers in as that would have been a meat grinder. On the other hand we had a chance much earlier. You have to beat the reds to the punch. They have no lives at all and will happily wait and wait in a system and secure it before you even fire a shot.
Now the reds are in range of trib. And that makes defending gem a lot more tricky. Make no mistake we can still win this thing, the southern russians are inflicting a beating on WN and others but quite frankly we need to go on the attack, do to them what they have been doing to us. No more waitng for stuff to happen and then defending, go on the offense. Bring our supers and shove them down their throat. Lag their systems out, attack their poses. Make them react.
The other day impy took a conventional cap fleet out and reinforced multiple towers. The fleet eneded up getting hot dropped but it felt good to be out putting pressure on them. We forced them to log in their caps and supers. If the system hadn’t been lagged out to hell and back we could have taken down some of their supers. If you make them start to bleed then they WILL have to go down south to defend their CSAA’s.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Ronan Tesidari
For consideration…
On rzr jabber‚ we have a channel specifically for supers. SC’s and Titans.
Across the NC, there is approx 400 people registered for that channel. 100+ just from RAWR.
If you seriously believe we cannot match that super blob, you are mistaken.
The question is, where are all those super pilots when push comes to shove, because 40 outta 400 is piss poor participation of any group of pilots.
You want to win this war and help put an end to RMT empire? Poke you super buddies to get in game and do something.
Our super blob can easily be the same size + larger. That does not include the ridiculous # of regular caps we can get into fleets.
If everyone put in 110%.. we could easily have 1 fleet complete with just supers, 1.5-2 fleets just in regular capitals, and another 2-3 fleets just for support.
That’s perspective.[/QUOTE]
