Star Citizen (Part 1)

Acc · October 16, 2012, 9:02am

me ne ha parlato un amico poprio ieri, beh il trailer è qualcosa di incredibile, ma il gioco non esiste ancora

voi quanto sareste disposti a donare ?

Kaldais · October 16, 2012, 9:06am

LA MIA ANIiMA

Acc · October 16, 2012, 9:06am

e cazzo, fermati a 10.000 $ che sono sufficienti

Eleclipse · October 16, 2012, 9:14am

Personalmente zero, aspetto di vedere se e quanto esce il gioco com'è.

Ad essere sincero mi sono cascate un po' le palle quando (da quanto ho capito) han detto che sarà una sorta di multiplayer con una parte "campagna single" e un sistema ibrido fra abbonamento e robe da comprare online con "moneta" loro (che peraltro viene data a chi finanzia questo "kickstarter").

Non è esattamente quel tipo di intenzioni che mi fanno ben sperare, indipendentemente da quale sia il curriculum di chi gestisce il progetto.

Inoltre a parte la bella grafica (e già mi chiedo se il mio futuro catorcio la reggerà

) è tutto veramente troppo nebuloso perché vi metta su dei soldi. Imo eh.

Vedremo che salta fuori.

Feror · October 16, 2012, 9:18am

cazz voglio vedere se qualche pazzo riccone gli molla 10000$

, cioè per lo 0,5% del progetto mi devono fare azionista

cmq 30 buck$ donati

Feror · October 16, 2012, 9:21am

e sganciali sti 30 sacchi, te li ridanno anche se il progetto non parte

!

Acc · October 16, 2012, 9:25am

si ma se il progetto parte ma il gioco fa schifo, mica te li ridanno

Acc · October 16, 2012, 9:26am

ah ci sarà un abbonamento ?

The.End · October 16, 2012, 9:27am

etlameadomina

Feror · October 16, 2012, 9:44am

no, letto prima le FAQ

da quello che dicono loro sarà alla "guild wars2" ci sarà una valuta in game che potrai ottenere
-pagando
-giocando
dalle faq:

Eleclipse · October 16, 2012, 9:52am

Sono ansioso di vedere la "stiva porta valori espansa" che ti consente di trasportare 100 volte di più del normale a 100 dollari galattici o comode 100 ore di gioco rateali.

(tanto non influenza il gioco!)

Scherzi a parte discorsi del genere vogliono dire tutto e niente senza delle specifiche.

AkA · October 16, 2012, 9:55am

Ahó l'avete capito o no il concetto di crowdfunding?

0.eroes.0 · October 16, 2012, 10:45am

ma cazz!!

edit: ma checcazzo Tuco! Una minchia di gif da 6 (SEI) Mega ?!?!?!

Kraker · October 16, 2012, 11:20am

Perchè non hanno usato KickStarter?

Inb4: il sito pinga a Napoli

Crius · October 16, 2012, 11:45am

Bello il video "lungo".
Ma da pigro, quindi guidi i caccia e fai lo sborone in giro o puoi fare altro?

Si bello girare per la nave madre ma se giri per un museo in cui non puoi fare un piffero..

Ad ogni modo, attendo, non ho idea se mi girerà sul PC quindi anche "solo" 30$ non ce li butto a caso per un gioco che comunque non è il mio genere preferito per quanto dietro ci sia un guru del genere

Feror · October 16, 2012, 12:18pm

c'è scritto sul sito nelle FAQ, in sostanza riassumo in un "perchè devo passare da qualcuno quando posso auto-gestirmi" unito al "volevo fare tutte quelle opzioni da 10$ a 10000$ che su kickstarter non potevo"

Drest · October 16, 2012, 12:38pm

this, prima di sapere del lato item mall ero anche gasato, poi è passato tutto.

The.End · October 16, 2012, 1:23pm

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/10/16/star-citizens-big-influences-demons-souls-real-life/

Star Citizen – the newest and spacest thing from mighty commander of all wings, Chris Roberts – sounds impossibly good. And I do mean that, but with more emphasis on the “impossible” part than I’d like. No doubt, Roberts is completely brilliant, but he’s proposing a project of utterly mad ambition. Naturally, it’s made me a bit skeptical. That said, an hour-long chat during GDC Online (the full results of which you’ll see very soon) definitely put a few of my fears at ease. Roberts is dreaming bigger than just about any other designer out there, but his pie-in-the-stars ambitions are actually pretty well-grounded in reality. And also Demon’s Souls, surprisingly enough.

Star Citizen’s scope and scale may sound completely bonkers, but there are limits. Very specific limits, actually. In short, don’t go in expecting EVE-Online-style thousand-ship-battle shenanigans. This simply isn’t that sort of game.

“The largest amount of people that can be in one area in space is decided by the number of people we can have in combat at once,” Roberts told RPS. “It’s not 100 percent fully determined, but it’s going to be between 60 and 100-some-odd people. So if there were 10,000 people in orbit around Earth, that’d be 100 different instances of 100 different people, basically.”

“Essentially, the persistent universe is doing the matchmaking. It keeps track of where you are in the galaxy, how much money you’ve got, what ship you’ve got – and obviously, that’s not completely real-time. If we wanted to, the persistent universe could be handled by some sort of boring web interface. But that’s not the sort of stuff I like to do. So the persistent universe detects that you and another player are moving one way, and he’s a pirate and you’re a merchant, and you’re going to intersect. So it basically creates an instance that’s dynamic and puts you two into it until you resolve your conflict. It will allow other players to drop into it. There’ll be slots saved for your friends, so you’ll be able to message them and say, ‘Hey, I’m under attack! If anyone’s close by, come help me out.’”

“It’s a different level of scope [than EVE]. That’s why it’s called ‘Star Citizen’ and not ‘Earth and Empire’ or something. It’s more about that personal view than some big political campaign.”

He noted, then, that Squadron 42 – Star Citizen’s non-persistent spin-off – will be a lot like World of Tanks, but with an overarching narrative. Further, in response to one of Richard’s concerns, he explained that Squadron 42 is actually first on the list of priorities, as Star Citizen’s persistent world technology will eventually be layered on top of it to create a separate game. “Actually, if someone were to ask me, ‘Chris, can you really get this all done?’ it wouldn’t be about getting the Squadron 42 stuff done. It’d be whether or not I can get the full vision of the world going. That’s the biggest challenge,” he said.

Roberts assured me, however, that his ultimate goal is still to simulate a living, breathing galaxy as accurately as possible. And that goal manifests everywhere: in economics, upholding the law, and, er, insurance.

“I’m actually sort of bummed by the current design philosophy where there’s no penalty for not doing particularly well,” Roberts lamented. “In a lot of games I play – especially the console ones – I don’t play particularly smart, because when I respawn, I’m like a second away from where I died. So I go in guns blazing and basically bully my way through the story. I really like [console-only Dark Souls predecessor] Demon’s Souls, though. It was a combination of the most frustrating and rewarding game I’ve played in a long time.”

“So in this, I don’t think we’re gonna be quite as tough as Demon’s Souls, but there needs to be some penalty. You won’t be able to just blast away and then respawn again. So if you go out in space and your ship gets destroyed, you’ve lost it. But basically, we’re trying to do a lot of things like the real world, so we’re trying to simulate an economy and you can buy ship insurance and cargo insurance. So, if you’re smart, you’ll pay a little money for insurance. Normally, if you get blasted, you’ll lose your cargo, but you’ll end up on the same planet to get a replacement ship. If you don’t have ship insurance, you’ll lose it all. I mean, insurance is not going to be that expensive, but it certainly shouldn’t be easy.”

He added that insurance costs will be higher at the edge of the galaxy, because “it’s just like if you’re living in a really bad neighborhood.” So you’ll definitely want insurance in that sort of no-man’s-land, but you might be able to get by without it if you decide to cling to Earth like it’s a gigantic, eons-old safety blanket. That said, Earth will also impose higher tariffs and trade taxes, whereas the lawless frontier keeps things quick, loose, and sans paper trail. But, just putting it out there, you’ll probably die. Roberts’ hope, then, is that a system of trade princes, space crime lords, bounty hunters, and everything in between will arise from that. So yeah, there may be some smoke-and-mirrors involved, but it still all sounds totally mad. Not that you’ll hear Roberts complaining if you tell him as much.

“Well,” he grinned, “no one ever accused me of being unambitious.”

Check back later this week for the full, extremely lengthy interview. It will finally set to rest your overwhelming fears that Roberts might suddenly cease developing games to pursue a life of organized space crime. And also, it might answer a few more of your burning questions about Star Citizen. Maybe. If it feels like it.

0.eroes.0 · October 16, 2012, 1:35pm

Mi fate morire: in un topic chiedete lo store online piratoso su cui comprare una key per risparmiare magari 9.99€, poi in un altro invitate la gente a versare "solo" 30$ (ovvero tre volte il risparmio ottenuto sbattendosi a inventarsi un modo per magare meno l'altro gioco) per un prodotto che ancora non esiste e che, forse, avrete sull'hd dopo due anni ma senza certezze sulla sua qualità

Vi adoro!

acct-eliminato.62 · October 16, 2012, 1:59pm

Io mi son rotto le balle di spiegare alla gente di come funziona il crowdfunding, del perchè è importante, e cosa comporta. Non perderò altro tempo.

Stavo per venirlo a postare io. Le bave condivise dei giocatori del mondo stanno oramai formando laghi.
Cmq se aprite un thread su un progetto del genere aggiornare il primo post con info utili sarebbe buona cosa