pleistescion 3

e975194c4ecc031c073888e61856ccbe · May 24, 2005, 9:53am

Probabilmente il prezzo di lancio del X360 sarà più elevato di 350 Euro (che francamente mi sembrano pochini per una console Next Gen) e verrà "casualmente" abbassato il giorno del lancio della PS3..

Shinta · May 24, 2005, 10:45am

Non penso il prezzo si abbassi, io prevedo un lancio di bundle XBOX360 + HALO3 + LIVE ad un prezzo molto interessante

Speed_399 · May 24, 2005, 10:55am

halo 3 te lo sogni al lancio

Shinta · May 24, 2005, 11:05am

no dicevo quando uscirà la Ps3. Bill Gates ha affermato che uscirà lo stesso giorno di Halo 3, quindi prevedo un bundle

darkfed · May 24, 2005, 4:11pm

boh io le prendero per iniziare la x quando sara sotto la soglia dei 300 euro...

poi per la ps3 dio vede e provvede

19-2000 · May 24, 2005, 4:48pm

ripeto per halo 3

alcuni dicono che la ms lo faccia uscire per dar fastidio al lancio della ps3

io dico che è l'esattamente contrario

halo 3 eclissato dal lancio della ps3

Hulk2099 · May 24, 2005, 5:33pm

Speed_399 · May 24, 2005, 6:00pm

ahhh pensavo al lancio della xbox da come l'avevi messa

come non detto allora

acct-eliminato.1 · May 27, 2005, 12:35am

http://www.consolenetwork.it/ps2/det_news.cfm?ID=19439

lul

Shinta · May 27, 2005, 10:20am

erano 2 geforce di prossima generazione che come potenza sono MOLTO simili all'RSX. E' straold sta news

darkfed · May 27, 2005, 10:31pm

ma quanto mi sta in culo sta sony...

D1ablo · June 13, 2005, 12:09am

scusate non ho capito bene...la ps3 si potrà connettere direttamente al monitor invece della tv?

Speed_399 · June 13, 2005, 9:50am

in teoria si .. ma anche la xbox360 mica solo la ps3

Carlocci · June 13, 2005, 11:14pm

ma anche la ps2!

ma solo monitor sony (gli unici con la sincronizzazione sul verde)

killer0 · June 14, 2005, 6:56am

Non penso (spero) proprio, visto che al lancio negli stati uniti (anche se poi è lo stesso giorno in tutto il mondo o un paio di giorni dopo, boh nn ricordo) il prezzo è stato fissato a 300$
ok che siamo italiani magna magna e una conversione 300$=300€ ci può ance stare, ma se costa anche solo 301 euri vaffanculo col cazzo che la prendo, questo vuol dire essere presi in giro.

Speed_399 · June 14, 2005, 9:22am

io ero rimasto che allard ha detto "intorno" ai 300$ ma io ci credo abbastanza poco che costarà 300$/300€ sinceramente .. vedremo ..

più precisamente

Q: How much is the Xbox 360 going to cost?

Not sure. It's probably about two months away before we make the decision on that.

Q: The last Xbox went out at about $300 initially. Will the 360 be priced higher, lower?

It's going to be in the neighborhood.

http://www.thestreet.com/tech/software/10225293_3.html

acct-eliminato.1 · June 22, 2005, 12:20pm

lol

pare che la ps3 avrà solo 5 spe attivi, perchè non riescono a fare i cell abbastanza bene

darkfed · June 22, 2005, 8:35pm

cheee?!

Speed_399 · June 22, 2005, 9:33pm

beh il concetto era farli da 8 spe a 65nm che a 90nm era problematica la cosa l'ho sempre sospettato purtroppo

dove l'hai letto cmq ? non l'ho visto da nessuna delle parti da cui lurko di solito

non ne parlano neanche su beyond3d e li di solito di cose ne sanno a pacchi (c'è una foto di un sample dell'RSX lol)

acct-eliminato.1 · June 22, 2005, 9:58pm

no, trattasi di una interpretazione errata di chi ha riportato la notizia.

l'articolo completo è questo

Kutaragi talks more on PlayStation 3

Sony Computer pres says defective PS3 Cell chips may end up in home servers; back Blu-ray (again) as the only choice.
In the latest issue of Nikkei Electronics, Sony Computer Entertainment President Ken Kutaragi talked about some of the various functions and aesthetics of the Cell chip, which will be used in the PlayStation 3. In the article, Kutaragi detailed how the aesthetics of the Cell chip will cut its production costs as well as how it may also lead to a dual-CPU Cell home server.

Kutaragi stated earlier that although the Cell microprocessor comes with eight synergistic processor elements (SPEs) for multi-core processing, the chip only uses seven of them. Kutaragi explained that ignoring one SPE as a redundancy will improve the chip's production yield and allow costs to drop dramatically. In other words, Sony can ship a Cell chip with one defective SPE (out of its eight) as a working product, since the chip only uses seven SPEs to begin with.

"This is the ultimate aesthetic. The number of SPEs we equip to the Cell and how many we will actually use are two different things. I wanted to adopt the idea of 'redundancy' to the development of semiconductors. Logic LSIs, excluding memory chips, are considered defective and un-shippable if just one transistor or line doesn't work. If the Cell's final chip dimension is about 200 square millimeters, making one without any defects is extremely difficult. We can't reach our anticipated production yield with that. Of course we'll take various measures to lower the defect density, but that won't be enough. But by considering one or two SPEs as a redundancy from the very beginning, we can still use a Cell chip even if it's partially defective," Kutaragi said, who also revealed that a similar scheme would also be used for the PlayStation 3's RSX graphics processor.

"An interesting question is what will be done with the Cell chips that only have six working SPEs," continued Kutaragi. "We won't use it for the PS3, of course. Rather, I'm seriously thinking about using two of these chips to create a home server. Home servers have less of a constraint in case size and board dimension when compared to the PS3, and we can make enough space for two Cell chips. That will make it a product with a total of twelve SPEs. This is possible with the Cell since it can use as many SPEs as it needs. And this will bring a use to Cell chips that aren't fit for the PS3."

Kutaragi went on to explain that one of the reasons why the Cell chip for the PS3 was announced to run at 3.2GHz at E3 was due to heat issues. Back when the chip was first announced at the International Solid-State Circuits Conference (ISSCC), its spec said that the chip could run at 4GHz. "We could create a 4GHz Cell if we were aiming to sell it for a high-end computer," Kutaragi said. "There's also the issue of heat. We might have had to create the PS3 with a bigger body if we adopted a 4GHz chip for it."

Kutaragi commented that the PS3's detachable hard drive would most likely be 80GB, since that is the standard capacity of a general 2.5-inch hard drive. "We're going to run an all-purpose OS on it." Kutaragi said, which seems to back up his previous comments that he plans to pre-install Linux on the PS3's HDD.

Kutaragi was asked if he has any plans to add a DVD recorder or home server capability to the PS3. "In that case, you'll need at least one Terabyte of disc space" he said. "Even that much space won't be enough if it's going to be HDTV compliant. To put that much HDD space into this machine is impossible. Rather than to equip some mediocre amount of HDD space, it's better to make it detachable. There's also the possibility of a home server equipped with the Cell chip. But when we first release it as a game machine, we won't need a HDD."

Kutaragi also talked about his decision to adopt Blu-ray for the PlayStation 3 rather than wait a bit longer to see if the Blu-ray and HD-DVD factions would come to a final conclusion on a unified disc standard. "E3 was the last chance," Kutaragi said. "The PS3 is the console of the future, so I wanted an extreme amount of capacity. But for that, we need cutting-edge technology, and not technology that is currently available. My suggestion was to come to an agreement with a physical format that is as close to [the Blu-ray's] 0.1mm as possible. But the PS3 launches in Spring 2006. If we had continued to wait for a unified standard, we wouldn't be able to release the PS3. We no longer have any more time. It's game over."

Kutaragi strongly stressed that he has no plans to compromise on the Blu-ray's 0.1mm physical format, which gives it the upper hand to HD-DVD in terms of capacity. However, he said that he could wait until Spring 2006 to see if Sony and Toshiba could come up with a unified standard that's still based on the Blu-ray's physical format. As long as the change is only in the disc's logical structure, the PS3 can still adapt to it with some software updates. Despite Kutaragi's comments, it has been reported that the Toshiba and Sony are still in negotiations to work on a standard format.

Kutaragi also talked about the look of the PS3, commenting that he and Teiyu Goto, the console designer of the original PlayStation and the PS2, decided to give the PS3's body a curved surface after considering shapes that hadn't existed in either consoles or computers in the past. When asked if the curved surface made developing internal architecture difficult, Kutaragi said that internal architecture was already being considered when the body was designed, like where the BD-ROM reader's motor and connectors would be placed, as well as how heat would be released. Kutaragi also stated that he prepared three PS3 mock-ups for E3 in silver, white, and black. He settled on the silver one, after gathering a consensus from a variety of different developers and distributors.

"When we released the PlayStation in 1994, Nintendo's Famicom was mainstream," Kutaragi said. "We wanted to create a game machine that wouldn't lose to them, so it's true that we were conscious about the Famicom when we decided on the PS's color and shape. When we released the PS2 in 2000, our goal was to make it blend in naturally with home electronics. We wanted it to be lying around the TV, but not as a game machine, and we worked hard on its DVD playback capabilities. When people used the [original] PS, they'd take it out and unwrap the controller's cord, and then put it back when they're finished playing with it. I hated that. Home electronics always sit right next to a TV, and home electronics are black, so we made sure that the PS2 was black. However, the PS3 will go beyond home electronics and computers. There is no prior example to what the PS3 will be."

anzi, dice tutto l'opposto.
i chip per ps3 avranno 8 spe i cui una disattiva, quelli difettosi saranno riciclati in altro modo.