razor senza lune, bot e renters non ha senso di esistere
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/H-W9TY
Tribute è caduta.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Tenal
Tenal è caduta.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Branch
Branch scappano tutti.
No more NC.
Tribute è caduta.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Tenal
Tenal è caduta.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Branch
Branch scappano tutti.
No more NC.
FORTRESS TRIBUTE
gioco dal 2006 ... e ne ho viste parecchie ... sconfitti BOB, AAA, visto implodere i Goons, schiacciate ally di merda come Atlas et. similia ... ma aver distrutto la NC è decisamente la più grande soddisfazione mai avuta.
Più di ogni altro hanno rappresentato, imho, la merda di EvE ... è bello tirare lo sciacquone.
Più di ogni altro hanno rappresentato, imho, la merda di EvE ... è bello tirare lo sciacquone.
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Vuk Q&A
Originally Posted by [4S] Vuk Lau
Please read those before mumble meeting so we skip going over the same topics again and again.
Yes. To Delve.
1. NPC Delve
2. Still discussing the options. RZR will chill in Venal for next couple of weeks.
1. We will most likely chill for next couple of days in Tribute core (until we lose all stations) and in Taisy and neighborhood.
2. We are doing it on corp level.
3. You will be informed on time about any changes.
4. Yes
RZR already evaced their stuff, and if we couldnt manage to defend Tribute I doubt we can be of any help to RZR in our current shitty state.
1. TEST are cool dudes‚ but yeah we will most likely shoot them soon
2. Keep dreaming. Hope die last.
1. Yes for past several weeks.
2. We were thinking about it for ages (at least Plague Black and myself) tho I am not sure it would work out. In any case if we decide to go that way‚ we dont have any setbacks about it now when we are spaceless.
3. NPC space, and as I said most likely Delve.
4. Hundreds of billions, as usual.
Yes, tho it was 26yr old female gym teacher, and she was fucking hot. I would recommend everyone to be molested that way.
Already answered in another thread
1. NC will maybe die on paper at this point, but regardless of everything we are staying in constant BFF comms with everyone who were real friend to us in past couple of years. You can make enemy in one day, but for someone to call a friend you need years and we will not waste all of that cause we encountered "minor" bump on the road.
2. RAWR CΕOs are іn cоnstаnt shitthrow...erm communication for past 3 weeks making sure we are all on same page. We are all staying together.
3. We are opening the new page in RAWR history. Atm current SOV mechanics are such that they are laughing to anyone who wants to hold space‚ thus we will move to NPC space and pewpew only.
Already explained several times, but I will do it again. Outside Bet is not PL alt corp, it is alt corp of one of PL members. The deal was arranged while we were brosefs and it was made regardless of our future standings. Anyway the deal was on mutual benefit, he was selling supers to PL but he also helped us replacing our supers as well as selling on the market as everyone else, it was pure business deal and as such I respected it till the end. It was not to lone case, we allowed others to build supers in our space for some compensation or just for BFF. Believe it or not the guy whose corp is, is great dude and as I said helped me on several occasions. He never had forum account, or accessed jabber, TS or any abused in any way our deal. We decided to end the deal two months ago because he was slowly stopping to play and the titan put in production couple of days ago was the last supercap we agreed on. I dont need to mention that with isk earned from that deal, we replaced more than several supercaps we welped.
We still have rather strong empire industrial backbone so we can either get them on market or start building them in someone else space. And yeah CCP will nerf supercaps soon(tm)
1. At this moment - NO
2. Yes, we will do exactly that, or at least try
3. I agree
4. C
Nah all the spies we found out were as usual in following corps: MV, TGRAD, hirr, FSR
1. Yes, in the current form, but NC will always live as long as we play. And yes BFF coalition model fail this time, tho it worked pretty well in the past.
2. Our blue list will most likely be non-existent soon
3. We are switching to mumble, and we will most likely continue using RZR jabber.
4. Yes, fun is the main goal for the future.
1. No, but yeah RAWR will be lead in upcoming months by FCs with Imperian on the helm. Luckily for us HoN servers are under constand DDoS so he is back to ΕVE
2. Yeah we maybe suck atm, but we have best crew of guys you can іmagine in any MMO. We are staying tоgether.
1. Yes‚ deep and real
2. I dont do drugs
1. After reading CAOD, FHC and KUGU to much.
2. Εxactly, we dіdnt wanted that space anyway.
1. Cause we suck
2. Bastard child of Imperian and Sala Cameron
3. Hell Yeah
Q
1. IMHO the following mistakes:
Alienating CΕOs from FCs;
Me stoppіng tо fight every evening like I did for yeаrs‚
Allowing corps to rely on tech to much
Not pushing enough for putting as many members as possible to supercap ships
Being more rigid to corps who were underperforming for long periods.
Not working to much on NC (this was never idea, but after we ended up stuck with it, we had to work more)
2. I agree with all your points
3. I always despised metagame in any sort, but as we saw, you cant be big player without it. Somehow I need to HTFU and start doing it, but only in a way of counterespionage.
Yes, 100% blame for that and then all other CΕOs after me.
1. Εxactly
2. Trollshіt.
3. Nоt аnytime soon. And yeah we didnt learned a thing we didnt knew before‚ we just need harsh wake up call.
4. As you saw Razor will be BFF forever. We are in constant comms with them and I am sure we will work in near future again.
1. We are evacing all important stuff cause Battle for Tribute is lost...for now. We will stay around for some time, as long as it still has a point of being around.
2. As I already said, with current sov mechanics we dont have one motivator to hold space again and being burdened with it for nothing in return.
3. By giving them free hands to run this alliance.
4. Already answered
5. Εxactly
1. Irrelevant for us
2. Not long
Already answered. But yeah we will have on our mind the current situation when we start pumping supers again.
1. No‚ being fluffу doesnt mean beіng weak. We just need tо become аgain the motherfuckingfacerape fluffy guys.
2. Yup
3. Yup
4. Already answered. You cant control the market.
5. Yup[/QUOTE]
Vuk Q&A
Originally Posted by [4S] Vuk Lau
Please read those before mumble meeting so we skip going over the same topics again and again.
Yes. To Delve.
1. NPC Delve
2. Still discussing the options. RZR will chill in Venal for next couple of weeks.
1. We will most likely chill for next couple of days in Tribute core (until we lose all stations) and in Taisy and neighborhood.
2. We are doing it on corp level.
3. You will be informed on time about any changes.
4. Yes
RZR already evaced their stuff, and if we couldnt manage to defend Tribute I doubt we can be of any help to RZR in our current shitty state.
1. TEST are cool dudes‚ but yeah we will most likely shoot them soon
2. Keep dreaming. Hope die last.
1. Yes for past several weeks.
2. We were thinking about it for ages (at least Plague Black and myself) tho I am not sure it would work out. In any case if we decide to go that way‚ we dont have any setbacks about it now when we are spaceless.
3. NPC space, and as I said most likely Delve.
4. Hundreds of billions, as usual.
Yes, tho it was 26yr old female gym teacher, and she was fucking hot. I would recommend everyone to be molested that way.
Already answered in another thread
1. NC will maybe die on paper at this point, but regardless of everything we are staying in constant BFF comms with everyone who were real friend to us in past couple of years. You can make enemy in one day, but for someone to call a friend you need years and we will not waste all of that cause we encountered "minor" bump on the road.
2. RAWR CΕOs are іn cоnstаnt shitthrow...erm communication for past 3 weeks making sure we are all on same page. We are all staying together.
3. We are opening the new page in RAWR history. Atm current SOV mechanics are such that they are laughing to anyone who wants to hold space‚ thus we will move to NPC space and pewpew only.
Already explained several times, but I will do it again. Outside Bet is not PL alt corp, it is alt corp of one of PL members. The deal was arranged while we were brosefs and it was made regardless of our future standings. Anyway the deal was on mutual benefit, he was selling supers to PL but he also helped us replacing our supers as well as selling on the market as everyone else, it was pure business deal and as such I respected it till the end. It was not to lone case, we allowed others to build supers in our space for some compensation or just for BFF. Believe it or not the guy whose corp is, is great dude and as I said helped me on several occasions. He never had forum account, or accessed jabber, TS or any abused in any way our deal. We decided to end the deal two months ago because he was slowly stopping to play and the titan put in production couple of days ago was the last supercap we agreed on. I dont need to mention that with isk earned from that deal, we replaced more than several supercaps we welped.
We still have rather strong empire industrial backbone so we can either get them on market or start building them in someone else space. And yeah CCP will nerf supercaps soon(tm)
1. At this moment - NO
2. Yes, we will do exactly that, or at least try
3. I agree
4. C
Nah all the spies we found out were as usual in following corps: MV, TGRAD, hirr, FSR
1. Yes, in the current form, but NC will always live as long as we play. And yes BFF coalition model fail this time, tho it worked pretty well in the past.
2. Our blue list will most likely be non-existent soon
3. We are switching to mumble, and we will most likely continue using RZR jabber.
4. Yes, fun is the main goal for the future.
1. No, but yeah RAWR will be lead in upcoming months by FCs with Imperian on the helm. Luckily for us HoN servers are under constand DDoS so he is back to ΕVE
2. Yeah we maybe suck atm, but we have best crew of guys you can іmagine in any MMO. We are staying tоgether.
1. Yes‚ deep and real
2. I dont do drugs
1. After reading CAOD, FHC and KUGU to much.
2. Εxactly, we dіdnt wanted that space anyway.
1. Cause we suck
2. Bastard child of Imperian and Sala Cameron
3. Hell Yeah
Q
1. IMHO the following mistakes:
Alienating CΕOs from FCs;
Me stoppіng tо fight every evening like I did for yeаrs‚
Allowing corps to rely on tech to much
Not pushing enough for putting as many members as possible to supercap ships
Being more rigid to corps who were underperforming for long periods.
Not working to much on NC (this was never idea, but after we ended up stuck with it, we had to work more)
2. I agree with all your points
3. I always despised metagame in any sort, but as we saw, you cant be big player without it. Somehow I need to HTFU and start doing it, but only in a way of counterespionage.
Yes, 100% blame for that and then all other CΕOs after me.
1. Εxactly
2. Trollshіt.
3. Nоt аnytime soon. And yeah we didnt learned a thing we didnt knew before‚ we just need harsh wake up call.
4. As you saw Razor will be BFF forever. We are in constant comms with them and I am sure we will work in near future again.
1. We are evacing all important stuff cause Battle for Tribute is lost...for now. We will stay around for some time, as long as it still has a point of being around.
2. As I already said, with current sov mechanics we dont have one motivator to hold space again and being burdened with it for nothing in return.
3. By giving them free hands to run this alliance.
4. Already answered
5. Εxactly
1. Irrelevant for us
2. Not long
Already answered. But yeah we will have on our mind the current situation when we start pumping supers again.
1. No‚ being fluffу doesnt mean beіng weak. We just need tо become аgain the motherfuckingfacerape fluffy guys.
2. Yup
3. Yup
4. Already answered. You cant control the market.
5. Yup[/QUOTE]
thx lofe
il bello è che parlano della necessità di altri isk per le fleet ma soprattutto per nuove supercapital ... al che la domanda sorge spontanea: gli isk fatti in ANNI di farming delle lune migliori e dei ratti migliori in EvE, che fine hanno fatto ?
Il secco NO senza argomentazioni o altro di Vuk alla domanda "ma i PL hanno ragione quando dicono che gli isk ve li siete mangiati / venduti ?" credo sia molto molto eloquente.
Il secco NO senza argomentazioni o altro di Vuk alla domanda "ma i PL hanno ragione quando dicono che gli isk ve li siete mangiati / venduti ?" credo sia molto molto eloquente.
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[edit] fuck ... ce l'ho fatta
p.s.
se mi pagate, il prossimo annuncio glielo faccio fare in reggiseno
p.s.
se mi pagate, il prossimo annuncio glielo faccio fare in reggiseno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPr5_w9gZYM&feature=feedu
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sembra legit ed affidabile, aspetta che ti passo i miei dati della cc.
comunque gg per lo sbatta del copy/paste, roba interessante.
finalmente anche i morsus mihi tornano alle loro radici pvp
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update dallo spymaster ? no, semplcemente Mittani
RZR jabber "high command" log database, dal 2009 ad oggi.
http://www.eve-razor.com/forum/index.php?action=genstab
http://www.eve-razor.com/forum/index.php?action=genstab
sono sicuro che ci sono molte persone che hanno gia' letto ogni singola parola di tutto cio' ...
scusate, ma stanno sgamando vuk lau per RMT (con dati concreti e dimostrabili) o sono semplici troll contro troll?
non mi ero accorrto che la cosa era finitia su CAOD lol ... boh, secondo voi ci si dovrebbe sorprendere ? è da un pezzo che vi dico che i trilioni di isk che la NC (RZR e MM) ha farmato in anni dal miglior spazio di EvE, in larga parte venivano venduti per soldi. Bastava fare quattro conti per rendersi conto che le entrate erano assolutamente sproporzionate rispetto a qualsiasi tipo di spesa in game.
E non parlo solo di moon gold, che da solo basterebbe, ma anche di tasse (ratti e anomalie), produzione (la NC è la maggior venditrice di capital, supercapitals e hull t2), rent ... tutta una serie di attività a livello di corp/alleanze che ha fruttato trilioni di ISK che, tolte le spese e le necessità di gioco, strabordavano dalle tasche di CEO e direttori.
Del resto, non so chi, con 10'000 (cifra a caso, e molto modesta se fate 2 conti) dollari di isk "fantasma" in tascha, non si farebbe pizzicare dalla tentazione.
Con 4 lune di tech (che è quello che ora ho io e sono l'ultimo dei soldati), hai garantito uno stipendio decente al mese ... non male come cosa no ? bene, ora ragionate a livello di corp/alleanza ... altro che stipendio
Devo ammettere che la cosa, alla luce di mesi di propaganda RZR e MM contro i russi e contro PL (guardacaso proprio quando gli si stava sfondando il culo eh) accusati in ogni modo di botting, RMT etc. etc. è alquanto divertente.
[00:20:01] how much is 60b in $?
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[00:20:26] not much
[00:20:30] lol
[00:20:52] good old times when I was selling isk 40€ per bill
[00:20:59] <7-drk-antonivs> well 8/120 made it thru the lag at the gate
[00:21:01] now if I get 20€ I am happy
[08:26:05] and they still push the story that RAWR rmts
[08:26:11] even in funny videos lol
[08:27:39] well, can you show me where all those trillions from those tech moons went?
[08:28:42] no offense, but they're gonna keep playing at that untill you can show where the isk went
[08:31:31] Wow, the peons rise up when the end is near lol
[08:36:05] Don't remember too many accusations of RMT from TNT 2 months ago
[08:36:26] im not accusing
[08:36:34] i dont really give a ****
[08:36:36] considering that rawr corps accuse each other of rmting behind each other's backs, in whispers, it doesn't surprise me
[08:37:24] city state warfare ftw, heh
[08:37:42] also, calling wibla a peon is rather amusing
[08:38:18] ie, don't do that
[08:38:56] the whole 'guest' structure is over, no more ****ting on alliances or people because they have fewer supercaps than whatever group you happen to be in today
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[08:41:21] until someone accounts for the large sums of isk, the RMT will never go away
[08:41:33] Hey, yer right mittins, I'm sure veiled accusations of RMT from TNT woulda gone over well 2 months ago, my comment was out of line
[08:41:41] My bad
[08:42:05] rawr-hirr-rat-salat: 1. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm pointing out why people ARE accusing. 2. Who are you?
[08:42:34] corp ceos of rawr explicitly accuse each other of rmting behind the scens
[08:42:41] and deals have been done
[08:42:43] so w/e
[08:43:03] To clarify, I keep this window open to read funny stuff. Probably shouldn't have typed. back to other video games.
[08:43:12] your blanket statements have been a little out of touch lately mittens
[08:43:13] rawr-hirr-rat-salat: also, I find it amusing that a little ex-RAGE **** is calling me peon. How did "holding space" go for you?
[08:43:27] i can account for all my corps moon goo isk
[08:43:39] arrow hasn't popped up in any such accusations
[08:43:46] I am pleased that I have stirred up some fun little irrelevant drama tho
[08:43:49] neither has hirr or 4s
[08:43:54] vOv
[08:44:08] so why make statements like that that will get leaked
[08:44:19] and make it seem like you think we're all rmt'ing :P
[08:44:44] Honestly, who cares?
[08:44:53] Really, how much $ can you really make RMTing?
[08:44:57] because we do
[08:44:59] A bil is what 30 bucks?
[08:45:06] so omg 120 bucks a moon
[08:45:10] I **** on your 120 bucks
[08:45:11] x3
[08:45:15] thats average dudes pay per week
E non parlo solo di moon gold, che da solo basterebbe, ma anche di tasse (ratti e anomalie), produzione (la NC è la maggior venditrice di capital, supercapitals e hull t2), rent ... tutta una serie di attività a livello di corp/alleanze che ha fruttato trilioni di ISK che, tolte le spese e le necessità di gioco, strabordavano dalle tasche di CEO e direttori.
Del resto, non so chi, con 10'000 (cifra a caso, e molto modesta se fate 2 conti) dollari di isk "fantasma" in tascha, non si farebbe pizzicare dalla tentazione.
Con 4 lune di tech (che è quello che ora ho io e sono l'ultimo dei soldati), hai garantito uno stipendio decente al mese ... non male come cosa no ? bene, ora ragionate a livello di corp/alleanza ... altro che stipendio
Devo ammettere che la cosa, alla luce di mesi di propaganda RZR e MM contro i russi e contro PL (guardacaso proprio quando gli si stava sfondando il culo eh) accusati in ogni modo di botting, RMT etc. etc. è alquanto divertente.
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domenica (o era sabato?) siamo andati in delve a dare il benvenuto ai morsus mihi .. gli siamo entrati direttamente in coppa nel loro staging sys (1dh) e loro ovviamente hanno subito buttato una mezza dozzina di supercaps per contrastare la nostra a-hac gang ecm-bursting everything
buon per loro che hanno fatto buone kills ..
ma noi avevamo un piano: tenerli occupati fino all'arrivo in zona di AAA così abbiamo fatto un pò di docking games fino al momento buono
al momento buono ci siamo trovati a un paio di jumps in a-b e abbiamo killato insieme al resto 4 carrier tra cui quella di Imperian e come cigliegina sulla torta anche il vaga di Yaay (Im down)
felice per il pomeriggio emozionante sono tornato a casa con un 46 kills circa e tutto intero \o/
erano mesi che aspettavo di sparare a qualche NC (o si deve dire ex-NC oggigiorno?)
buon per loro che hanno fatto buone kills ..
ma noi avevamo un piano: tenerli occupati fino all'arrivo in zona di AAA così abbiamo fatto un pò di docking games fino al momento buono
al momento buono ci siamo trovati a un paio di jumps in a-b e abbiamo killato insieme al resto 4 carrier tra cui quella di Imperian e come cigliegina sulla torta anche il vaga di Yaay (Im down)
felice per il pomeriggio emozionante sono tornato a casa con un 46 kills circa e tutto intero \o/
erano mesi che aspettavo di sparare a qualche NC (o si deve dire ex-NC oggigiorno?)
beh, sono sicuro che vi divertirete giu in Delve ... sono partiti come se avessero già conquistato la regione.
... ex-NC suona male ... come dicono loro BFF
... ex-NC suona male ... come dicono loro BFF