[Idle game] Realm Grinder

chrean · July 22, 2015, 4:32pm

Non mi sembra passato di qui ma potrei sbagliarmi (se sì lock+ban+trash+sodom).

Da un po' di tempo sto giocando a questo:

http://www.kongregate.com/games/divinegames/realm-grinder

Che è un idle game che inizialmente mi sembrava banale e squallido, ma poi si è rivelato avere una profondità e una tattica notevoli.
I dev stanno ancora lavorando al bilanciamento, ad ogni modo già sbloccare le tre fazioni neutrali è un bell'impegno.

9 fazioni totali da giocare, ognuna con le sue abilità speciali, non è male.

Optimized guide to Gem Grinding:

So this guide will simply highlight the most efficient faction for each gem range (in my opinion).
Please note that THIS GUIDE ASSUMES NEAR MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TROPHIES. e.g demons are the best faction after reincarnation if you have over 400 trophies and the hellfire rush spell upgrade.
I really don’t know which is the best faction for a new player that doesn’t have any trophies – It’s been so long since I was there and so many updates/rebalancing patches came along the way.
However, please do note that IF YOU DON’T HAVE ALL THE TROPHIES YOU CAN AT YOUR CURRENT REINCARNATION/GEM RANGE THEN YOU DON’T WANT TO BE LOOKING AT A GUIDE THAT OPTIMIZES GEM GAINS. YOUR PRIORITY SHOULD ALWAYS BE TO OBTAIN AS MANY TROPHIES AS POSSIBLE. Gaining reincarnations or increasing your gems is a secondary goal.

NO GIFT OF KINGS OR BLOODLINES, 0 ~ 100k (e5) Gems: Elves
Having no premium upgrades means that you will have to grind your first faction coins with a tiny faction coin chance per click. Elves will ease that pain until your fc chance is passable.

NO GIFT OF KINGS OR BLOODLINES, 100k (e5) ~ 1Qa (e15) Gems or WITH GIFT OF KINGS OR BLOODLINES, 0 ~ 1Qa (e15) Gems: Demons
So you either have the gifts or faceline and can instantly set demons up from the get go or you have to get some starting gems with elves before you have a passable faction coin chance. Regardless of how you got here, demons are currently the best vanilla faction to gain gems with after you’ve obtained plenty of trophies.
Halls of Legends tend to get weaker than other buildings later in the game because their upgrades give a higher bonus to the rest than they do to HoLs themselves. Nevertheless, this is NOT the case at the beginning of the game. When you only have 50~300 HoLs, they are by far the strongest building – provided you have a considerable amount of trophies. This coupled with the new ‘Hellfire Rush’ trophy that gives the ridiculously high Hellfire Blast bonus to HoLs, and the 3rd tier demon upgrade ‘Very Bad Guys’ that boosts HoLs directly makes your HoLs the ultimate building of doooooooooooom.
Fairies are much better than they were before, but they still lose to demons in the vanilla phase.

1Qa (e15) ~ 100Qi (e20) Gems: Druids
Druids are viable now. They got slightly buffed but more importantly excavations no longer have a gem cost. This means that it’s as easy to set druids up with excavations as it is to set titans up with LS. It also means that druids now generate slightly more gems and they can easily get you to the prestige phase without RNG headaches.
Titans will still generate many more gems on a monastrike or minestrike but I won’t recommend them because I’ve grown sick of Lightning Strike and bad luck can slow you down whereas druids are more reliable.

100Qi (e20) ~ 100Dc (e35) Gems: Dwarf/Angels or Dwarf/Fairies
I’m done arguing about this point. Pick whichever of the two you prefer. They will both get you to Mercenaries in a heartbit. Just don’t play Dwarf/Elves. I believe we can all agree that they suck
Please remember that this is a good time to start using excavations to setup your runs if you haven’t started that during the neutral phase. This holds true regardless of whether you’re playing Dwarf/Angels or Dwarf/Fairies.

100Dc (e35) ~ 1Nod (e60) Gems: Neutral Mercenaries – Diamond Forge
1Nod Gems is the R12 requirement. While Diamond Forge is always subpar to Lightning Forge, it has no RNG involved so it can get you the easy gems necessary up to this point.
Don’t forget to setup using excavations though. That is especially important for this build because you will need to get at least 800 excavations to make Diamond Pickaxe worth it.
Alternatively, you may consider using Pyrastrike, Brainfart or Moonfart. (These are the 3 short-term builds I’ve personally found to be the most efficient before I made Lightning Forge.)

1Nod (e60) ~ 1Dvg (e69) Gems: Neutral Mercenaries – Lightning Forge
1Dvg Gems is the R15 requirement. Use the lightning forge build to get there. It is certainly capable of that. Just make sure you get any trophy you can as soon as possible because those are important.

1Dvg (e69) ~ 1Qivg (e78) Gems: Good Mercenaries – IGOT
This is a long term build that is based around good mercenaries’ ability to generate assistants through Holy Crusaders. It’s the closest thing we will ever get to Greedinaries.
I have already reached R17 with this build and Nesrevi is currently testing for R18. It is most likely achievable.

BLOODLINES: The current faceless bloodline is good for setting vanilla factions up so I suggest that one until you can afford excavations.
At the neutral phase you can and should probably use excavations to setup so you should go for titan bloodline to get a production bonus. So it comes to this: A) I personally recommend you play druids, setup using excavations and pick titan bloodline, B) If you want to pick druids but not use excavations then use faceless bloodline for setting up, C) If you still feel attached to titans you should probably use demon bloodline. The mana regeneration will allow you to cast LS more often which will give you both more fc to setup and more good strikes for production.
Prestige take too long to setup without excavations and they are so easy to afford at this point that I don’t know why somebody wouldn’t do it. Still, the same thing applies. No excavations + faceline or excavations + production bloodline. Now the thing that’s different is that dwarf/angels want titan bloodline while dwarf/fairies prefer fairy bloodline.
Mercenary builds usually mention what the best bloodline is for them.

qu1ro · July 30, 2015, 10:11am

Appena sbloccato le fazioni neutrali... devo riavviare e sceglierne una...

Flomes · July 30, 2015, 12:54pm

Io ci sto giocando in silenzio da quando è stato postato e ancora devo capire chessò 'ste fazioni "neutrali"

LeChuck · July 30, 2015, 1:04pm

no no! A sto giro non ci casco...

Buccy · July 30, 2015, 6:22pm

Non lo apro non lo apro non lo apro...

Buccy · July 30, 2015, 6:24pm

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pesanze · July 31, 2015, 10:44am

cazzo e un idle game?

Tetsujin · July 31, 2015, 11:41am

Io sto giocando a palla con gli elfi o quel che sono (quelli verdi), che pare fin'ora abbiano i bonus meglio (1% di probabilita` ad ogni click di avere monete x10000 la produzione/s e un paio di migliaia di monete speciali arrandom

)

Ancora non ho provato la parte "Evil", suggerimenti in caso?

Diogene · July 31, 2015, 11:57am

cazzo, fanculo, merda.

spkbri · July 31, 2015, 12:35pm

kongregate bloccato dal proxy a lavoro

Gambero · July 31, 2015, 12:45pm

ud.... una costante entrata di monete

22d9c59dde0dccff28e40d03dd288549 · July 31, 2015, 12:54pm

fanculo Crin
fanculo

Kainlord · July 31, 2015, 2:28pm

*

ho letto in giro sul web che la migliore fazione end game sono gli angels.

Mi sfugge ancora dove sia tutta sta tattica

qu1ro · July 31, 2015, 2:54pm

Stanno ancora bilanciando... Io con i demoni avevo grindato una badilata di gemme

Poi dipende se sei uno che clicca (o autoclicker) o lasci in idle o chiudi e apri solo per comprare

Adesso sto andando di Titani

Gambero · August 3, 2015, 7:23am

quali sono i titani? Oo

Tetsujin · August 9, 2015, 3:23pm

Sbloccato i Titani

Wygga · August 9, 2015, 6:05pm

Sei indietro

Io sto per sbloccare i Dwarf. Sono a 200 excavation e ho 30Qi gemme

e non sono manco uno dei più avanti

Nevermore · August 9, 2015, 6:38pm

Io ho iniziato da "poco". Ho sbloccato tutte le 6 heritage base ed adesso sono in run con i daemon per farmare il bilione di gemme

Wygga · August 9, 2015, 6:43pm

I miei consigli sono i seguenti:
da 0 a 500.000 gemme andare Demon
da 500.000 gemme a 200T andare Angel
Si sbloccano Titans/Druid/Faceless
Da 200T di gemme in su conviene andare Titans.
a 100-150Qi di gemme si sbloccano i Dwarf/Drow.
A quel punto conviene andare Angel/Dwarf o Demon/Drow fino a che non si raggiunge 1OC di gemme e si procede alla PRIMA reincarnation.

Tetsujin · August 9, 2015, 6:44pm

No vabbe`, dal 31 ad ora ho ricominciato da capo causa Win10 (e non avendo backuppato il savegame, l'ho perso

)