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ho letto "turni"? 
Sì, non è fantastico?
*barrare la casella desiderata*
[_] Sì, è fantastico. Ogni tanto qualcuno si ricorda quali sono le meccaniche vincenti per questo tipo di giochi, quelle che permettono di implementare una vasta gamma di opzioni tattiche.
[_] Purtroppo io non ne capisco un cazzo di videogiochi, quindi a me i giochi a turni non piacciono.
A questo proposito vorrei sottolineare il nome Brian Mitsoda citato da Tuco, "ex Troika e lead writer di Vampire Bloodlines".
Chi si ricorda i dialoghi di bloodlines ed in particolare dei Malkavian
può capire cosa ci si può attendere, chi non conosce questo capolavoro dei crpg veda di rimediare immediatamente (qui c'è l'unofficial patch da installare, obbligatoria e comprendente la patch ufficiale: http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php)
si vabbe
forse nei primi 5 livelli.poi hai l'arma/equip/unità/magia/abilità sgrava. ed usi solo quella
Ma che cazzo stai dicendo? Torna a giocare a Final Fantasy.
Vorrei ricordare anche questa piccola citazione nella parte finale del gioco
Nobody expects the Malkavian inquisition!
Mi fece ribaltare dalla sedia
Nobody expects the Malkavian inquisition!
Mi fece ribaltare dalla sedia
Tuco
A turni significa soprattutto una maggiore cura del gameplay rispetto ad altri elementi puramente estetici.
E comunque a prescindere da tutto, un gioco così sarebbe il primo al mondo e l'unico nel suo genere, un win win di proporzioni gigantesche.
A turni significa soprattutto una maggiore cura del gameplay rispetto ad altri elementi puramente estetici.
E comunque a prescindere da tutto, un gioco così sarebbe il primo al mondo e l'unico nel suo genere, un win win di proporzioni gigantesche.
te lo appoggio sulla spalla
Riporto gli ultimi due update di design, non ancora tradotti, per ZRPG.
Monday Design Update 10/5 - Feared or Loved?
This week, I began thinking about just what kind of leader I would be in a crisis. Oh, don't worry, there is no fear or loved counter in the game, but one of the goals of the game is to make the player handle a group during a crisis and, just possibly, find out that maybe they aren't the person they think they are. What I mean is, the people who might think they would be an even-handed, rational and kind leader, might find themselves shooting the the shrill, obnoxious woman that keeps criticizing every decision of theirs. Or the person that tries to please everyone ends up pleasing no one. Or the person that thought it was swell to grow their numbers for safety finds out that it's a chore to keep that many people fed.
We're not trying to make the allies in the game a collection of stats. They're people, with their own quirks, strengths, and weaknesses. They're not all action heroes, and some of them can't even fight. They aren't guaranteed companions like in most games - the player has to be able to do something for them. Maybe that involves providing shelter or food, and maybe it means barking louder than them. Most of all, the personalities in the game don't necessarily get along with each other - the only thing that can unite them is strong leadership. This doesn't mean being fair or nice or a complete monster - maybe that might work for your group, I don't know - but the people that the player allys themselves with are going to need someone to keep them together and make the decisions that overall benefit the group in the long run, even if it means sacrificing or displeasing a few of them. In a lot of ways, the player has to be a politician in addition to being a fighter/thief/healer in their role as a leader. And if all else fails, you could try to just go it on your own.
Anyhow, opening up discussion to the group - what kind of leader do you think you would be in the zombie apocalypse? Assuming you don't live next to a soldier, secret agent, surgeon, astronaut, bare-knuckle boxer, and sniper, if you had to keep ten of your neighbors alive in an emergency situation, could you do it? What kind of problems would you encounter? How many do you think would make it to a month?
(When the game comes out, check back on this post and see if you lived up to your expectations.)
Monday Design Update 10/12 - Melee and Ranged Skill
We’re nearly done introducing all of the skills for the game, but today is a two-for-one, as these skills are two sides of the same coin – the combat skills, Melee and Ranged. Melee and Ranged sound pretty straightforward, or even limiting, but before anyone thinks that the choice is merely to hit stuff or hit stuff from far away, let’s take a look at some of the pros, cons, and weapon options of both forms of combat.
In most games with melee and ranged combat, ranged is almost always the way to go, because most fights take place at a range with both sides primarily using guns. However, one of the constant enemy types in our game is the zombie. Not only have we established that they tend to be found in higher numbers, but that they are attracted to noise. Unless the player is an excellent shot or using a shotgun at close range, the last thing they want is to be crowded by zombies when firing very loud guns, as the chances of taking them all down before a reload is very low. While no one should ever let themselves get mobbed by zombies, several Melee weapons excel at destroying or knocking back the undead, with the added benefit of never needing to be reloaded at inopportune moments.
At the same time, there are dangers out there that are less predictable than zombies – the other humans. They could be carrying everything from a kitchen knife to an automatic weapon, and in either circumstance, the Ranged fighter is likely to stand a better chance. That’s not to say Melee can’t get to a point where they can totally obliterate anyone at close range, but when they have to close the distance AND have enough Action Points to hit their target, that’s where it becomes tricky. And the simple fact is bullets do more damage than almost every type of melee weapon – that is, if you don’t run out of them. The Ranged player will have to manage resources more carefully if they want to remain effective in combat.
While there are multiple weapons in each category and anybody can use any weapon they find, the crucial thing to remember is that the higher the skill in Melee or Ranged, the more likely it is that you will successfully hit your target with the weapon. There are some other Stats that modify damage and accuracy, but we will go into those in a future update. Put simply, more points in a skill means more viable weapon choices and more success in that form of combat.
Each type of weapon, whether it’s a gun or a hand-to-hand weapon, has a class specialty that gives unique bonuses or attacks. For example, a shotgun has a short range but can hit multiple targets with a blast, while the knife has a chance to counter when an enemy attacks. In addition to bonuses, weapons are balanced by being 1 or 2-handed, 1-handed generally taking fewer action points to use and requiring no AP to switch to if in an active weapon slot. Most guns, aside from the pistol, are 2-handed. We don’t force you to stick to a specific weapon class, and we did that primarily to encourage people to find the right type of weapon to suit their style of play.
Since combat is a major part of the game, we’ve barely scratched the surface with these weapon skills and the many different weapon types. To boil it down, Melee is close-quarters, costs no ammo and is on average more quiet, while Ranged can be used at a greater distance, costs ammo, and is powerful but loud. Each weapon has unique features that can make it more appealing to certain types of builds or play styles. Melee is generally better versus zombies and humans without guns, while Ranged is generally better against gun-toting humans or supporting Melee characters. And if you can’t make up your mind, you could always put points in both and be a combat specialist. In a future update, we’ll discuss some of the pros and cons of the weapon classes, but until then we open up the discussion to this question – what type of weapon are you grabbing before you go out into the zombie apocalypse?
Monday Design Update 10/5 - Feared or Loved?
This week, I began thinking about just what kind of leader I would be in a crisis. Oh, don't worry, there is no fear or loved counter in the game, but one of the goals of the game is to make the player handle a group during a crisis and, just possibly, find out that maybe they aren't the person they think they are. What I mean is, the people who might think they would be an even-handed, rational and kind leader, might find themselves shooting the the shrill, obnoxious woman that keeps criticizing every decision of theirs. Or the person that tries to please everyone ends up pleasing no one. Or the person that thought it was swell to grow their numbers for safety finds out that it's a chore to keep that many people fed.
We're not trying to make the allies in the game a collection of stats. They're people, with their own quirks, strengths, and weaknesses. They're not all action heroes, and some of them can't even fight. They aren't guaranteed companions like in most games - the player has to be able to do something for them. Maybe that involves providing shelter or food, and maybe it means barking louder than them. Most of all, the personalities in the game don't necessarily get along with each other - the only thing that can unite them is strong leadership. This doesn't mean being fair or nice or a complete monster - maybe that might work for your group, I don't know - but the people that the player allys themselves with are going to need someone to keep them together and make the decisions that overall benefit the group in the long run, even if it means sacrificing or displeasing a few of them. In a lot of ways, the player has to be a politician in addition to being a fighter/thief/healer in their role as a leader. And if all else fails, you could try to just go it on your own.
Anyhow, opening up discussion to the group - what kind of leader do you think you would be in the zombie apocalypse? Assuming you don't live next to a soldier, secret agent, surgeon, astronaut, bare-knuckle boxer, and sniper, if you had to keep ten of your neighbors alive in an emergency situation, could you do it? What kind of problems would you encounter? How many do you think would make it to a month?
(When the game comes out, check back on this post and see if you lived up to your expectations.)
Monday Design Update 10/12 - Melee and Ranged Skill
We’re nearly done introducing all of the skills for the game, but today is a two-for-one, as these skills are two sides of the same coin – the combat skills, Melee and Ranged. Melee and Ranged sound pretty straightforward, or even limiting, but before anyone thinks that the choice is merely to hit stuff or hit stuff from far away, let’s take a look at some of the pros, cons, and weapon options of both forms of combat.
In most games with melee and ranged combat, ranged is almost always the way to go, because most fights take place at a range with both sides primarily using guns. However, one of the constant enemy types in our game is the zombie. Not only have we established that they tend to be found in higher numbers, but that they are attracted to noise. Unless the player is an excellent shot or using a shotgun at close range, the last thing they want is to be crowded by zombies when firing very loud guns, as the chances of taking them all down before a reload is very low. While no one should ever let themselves get mobbed by zombies, several Melee weapons excel at destroying or knocking back the undead, with the added benefit of never needing to be reloaded at inopportune moments.
At the same time, there are dangers out there that are less predictable than zombies – the other humans. They could be carrying everything from a kitchen knife to an automatic weapon, and in either circumstance, the Ranged fighter is likely to stand a better chance. That’s not to say Melee can’t get to a point where they can totally obliterate anyone at close range, but when they have to close the distance AND have enough Action Points to hit their target, that’s where it becomes tricky. And the simple fact is bullets do more damage than almost every type of melee weapon – that is, if you don’t run out of them. The Ranged player will have to manage resources more carefully if they want to remain effective in combat.
While there are multiple weapons in each category and anybody can use any weapon they find, the crucial thing to remember is that the higher the skill in Melee or Ranged, the more likely it is that you will successfully hit your target with the weapon. There are some other Stats that modify damage and accuracy, but we will go into those in a future update. Put simply, more points in a skill means more viable weapon choices and more success in that form of combat.
Each type of weapon, whether it’s a gun or a hand-to-hand weapon, has a class specialty that gives unique bonuses or attacks. For example, a shotgun has a short range but can hit multiple targets with a blast, while the knife has a chance to counter when an enemy attacks. In addition to bonuses, weapons are balanced by being 1 or 2-handed, 1-handed generally taking fewer action points to use and requiring no AP to switch to if in an active weapon slot. Most guns, aside from the pistol, are 2-handed. We don’t force you to stick to a specific weapon class, and we did that primarily to encourage people to find the right type of weapon to suit their style of play.
Since combat is a major part of the game, we’ve barely scratched the surface with these weapon skills and the many different weapon types. To boil it down, Melee is close-quarters, costs no ammo and is on average more quiet, while Ranged can be used at a greater distance, costs ammo, and is powerful but loud. Each weapon has unique features that can make it more appealing to certain types of builds or play styles. Melee is generally better versus zombies and humans without guns, while Ranged is generally better against gun-toting humans or supporting Melee characters. And if you can’t make up your mind, you could always put points in both and be a combat specialist. In a future update, we’ll discuss some of the pros and cons of the weapon classes, but until then we open up the discussion to this question – what type of weapon are you grabbing before you go out into the zombie apocalypse?
A me piace la storia del suono che attrae gli zombie, se la implementano davvero bene può portare a un sacco di meccaniche interessanti per il gioco
inizio a perdere fiducia.
un gioco così sarebbe TROPPO perfetto, non può esistere.
un gioco così sarebbe TROPPO perfetto, non può esistere.
Ho un gorilla sulla schiena. Solo che così mi consumo per il semplice fatto che non c'è una data e saranno praticamente agli inizi... ed è un progetto che prenderà parecchio tempo.
oddio, per un gioco del genere sono eccelsi sti screen!
non oso immaginare con gli zombie in mezzo ed il RIFUGIO!
ZRPG sembra promettente
1) difficile pensare a qualcosa del genere, di film con queste caratteristiche "naturali" dell'uomo quali l'istinto di auto preservazione, la necessità di unirsi in gruppi e dover trovare accordi al limite dell'umano, il bisogno di una figura che faccia da mentore, sopra a tutti e univocamente riconosciuto come capo ma sopratutto la paura unita alla mancanza di certezze se ne son visti.
Mentre invece di videogiochi nessuno. Un abbozzo con L4D forse.
Quindi immaginarsi in un contesto roleplay, senza sapere le regole, i limiti e la storia, tutta la storia è impossibile.
Mentre invece usando una linea generale su questo punto, immaginandomi quindi nella realtà post-zombie-apocalittica credo che...anzi sicuramente mi cagherei sotto dalla paura per almeno un paio di settimane.
Dopodichè, ambientatomi per bene, conscio del fatto che se non faccio nulla muoio e se faccio qualcosa crepo penso che preferirei portarmi dietro il massimo dei morti viventi prima di tirar le cuoia.
Se invece la situazione non è critica, il tempo a disposizione è tanto e un bel numero di persone sono presenti e tra le tante un'altrettanto numero di persone (per un motivo o per un altro) crede in me, credo scatterebbe quella scintilla tipica del "moderatore" o "burattinaio", ma magari semplicemente mi sentirei come un capo di un gruppo di motociclisti: sono il capo ma decidiamo per comune accordo.
Visto il mio temperamente a sangue caldo urlerei sicuramente in faccia agli estremisti e maleducati e rispetterei molto volentieri coloro che danno il tempo e la saggezza alle parole o coloro che dimostrano di saper prendere le redini di una situazione estrema con i fatti.
In poche parole mi sentirei in dovere di neutralità, cercando di calmare gli animi ma forse sarei un pò troppo buono sentondo la necessità di unificare il gruppo invece di isolare gli individui universalmente riconosciuti come pericolosi per la sicurezza globale del gruppo.
Il mio scopo sarebbe cercare superstiti, evitare il più possibile i pezzi di carne semoventi e ricostruire una piccola società.
All'antivirus o alla cura divina anti zombie non ci penserei affatto...fino a che una persona cara non venga infettata, forse solo allora diventerebbe una priorità.
2)
barret calibro .50, glock 18 con caricatore allungato, arma bianca una lancia corta, un tondino d'acciaio di almeno 40cm e un coltellino di almeno 5cm.
Tanti muscoli per portarmi dietro sta roba
In caso non ci sia cibo a sufficenza e tempo per mantenere il fisico passerei ad un fucile da cecchino più leggero, il resto rimane
armi e magie sgrave in un survival game di zombie?
non per gufare o rovinarvi la scimmia, ma sicuramente bisogna vedere se tutte queste belle idee le implementano davvero
A proposito di Zombie, sto giocando a Zombie Shooter 2, praticamente una specie di Diablo con le pistole e gli zombie.
Non si fa niente, solo sparare agli zombie avanzando in un ambiente in 3d isometrico ( o 2d, boh? ).
Sembrerà una puttanata, ma è divertente fare a pezzi ORDE di Zombie
Non si fa niente, solo sparare agli zombie avanzando in un ambiente in 3d isometrico ( o 2d, boh?
).Sembrerà una puttanata, ma è divertente fare a pezzi ORDE di Zombie
Provato... non mi piace che ad un certo punto mi spuntano gli "zombi" con le armi... armi addirittura laser o che lanciano fotoni o altra roba ultra futuristica.