Discesa politica in Austria.

mappina de puta madre scrive:
ok now I understand
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
so ... another party was created - Alternative Way ... the most active and eager players started joining and after some time it became clear, that we could beat the SPA at elections ... so the campain became dirty one, members of both aprties started "flamming with negative comments"
mappina de puta madre scrive:
as always
this happens everywhere
so you would not believe that if sheeptar wins again will change anythying
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
I understand that you are asking me this, becouse you leader told you so? or is it your personal interest?
yes, something like that
mappina de puta madre scrive:
it's my personal interest
the situation is tense also in our group
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
it is ok, if you are asking this for Cooop NGI ... I do not really care ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
we feel squizzed
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
in what way?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
in the way that I told you
that we are just used
we are in the middle of a political fight right?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
to some extent, yes ... thats why I was trying to calm you down and stop the comments ... I do not like the drity campaign ....
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
But at the moment it's all or nothing ...
Well fristly we will fix the economy ... We need to put the taxes all at 99%, revise our trade agreements
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
after that we will try to fixate the exchange rate of ATS at a normal rate, so that people can afford to buy it ...
the Ats that is circlling around at the moment was intended for 300-400 people ... now thare are more than 700 of us
tehre*
there*
Quindi la situazione è molto più complicata del previsto.
Questo sheeptar non è poi così tanto potente e ha visto in noi il modo di far e ameno dei voti che sta perdendo.
C'è da elaborare un piano e troncarglielo nel cul forte, altro chè.




decisamente!
Inanzi tutto, cerchiamo di chiarire una cosa.
E' stato introdotto il modulo per l'indipendenza?Io leggevo il topic riguardo l'indipendenza delle hawaii. http://www.erepublik.com/forum-topic-25341.html
Ora, come si può vedere, una indipendenza deve essere riconosciuta.
E che succede se questo non avviene?
Teoricamente ho fatto assumere ieri a Salisburgo una mia amica che sa qualcosa di Sloveno. Non è molto ma meglio del traduttore automatico. Se serve fatemelo sapere.
personalmente ho avuto a che fare con degli sloveni quando sono andato a Trieste, ed è meglio non averci a che fare

meglio eliminarli il primo possibile
Dobbiamo elaborare un piano, in fretta.
Questi ce la buttano nel culo.
http://www.erepublik.com/article-232081.html

Che scrivono qui?
che sono un branco zingari e che gli puzza il culo
we will also negotiate new alliances, maybe with medditerenian, but we would contact them first and see where things are standing ...
one of our mayor goals is also putting multi-accounters out of business ... we got some plans for that, but they are not to be made public yet
mappina de puta madre scrive:
there is no project to invade anything in Italy

SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
At the moment I try not to believe anything ... it would not be wise of me to jump in conclusions. If I trust you too soon, we coudl suffer a lot, so I try not to be persuaded into believing and trusting
mappina de puta madre scrive:
Idon't have to persuade anybody


SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
I can only hope it is ... and all I got is your word ... I do not think you are going to attack us or taht you are planing to do so, but I like to be cautios
mappina de puta madre scrive:
I only think that if we don't use our brain things will not go anywhere
the words I read in your comments where not nice
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
that they weren't
mappina de puta madre scrive:
you were tal.king about mobile army
20-30 skilled militaries to send somewhere
what's that for?
do you understand that in this way we go nowhere?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
but again I will try to present you this from our view ... you just found out, that eAustria is planning to take over eItaly ... how would you feel ... wouldn't your comments be the same? I emphasize that then we were sure about your attack ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
yes, but we promptly changed the article, we said that this was just a joke
we apologized
you didn't
you continued to attack
now, what are your plans? are you still grouping skilled militaries to do what?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
you ... saying that it was just a joke doesn't change the fact that article was there ... it could have been a plan that was just hidden as a joke or whatever ... saying it was only a joke doesn't change things ... The responses to the first article were so negative you cannot possibly expect that things would change so quickly
mappina de puta madre scrive:
do you understand that this could mean war against many states just because you are afraid of a trade company?
sorry if I tell you, but this is so stupid
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
that article was viewed as a threat of great proportion ... it alerted a lot of people and NGI may underestimate its influence
mappina de puta madre scrive:
but at least give us a possibilit.y to demonstrate it If you continue to attack nothing will change
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
I don't know where do you get idea that we are going to war?
We are trying to ... I advised you to give nice comments and not provoke other attacks ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
we were provoked matic
dejan just provoked us
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
I can assure you that we are not going to war with Italy ... sheeptar spoke with italian representative and it was mad clear that you are not snet here by them or are sponsored by italian government ... so I do not see a reason to go to war ...
made*
sent*
mappina de puta madre scrive:
that's good
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
about provoking ... it has occured, I saw it, it was intentional and it was becouse of teh elections
thats why I advised you not to comment ... don't get between those two sides ... don't even join a party until elections are over ... everything could provoke attacks of this sort ... it would be best if you lay low and try not to be a part of the debate ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
you tell me this because you are afraid that with our votes we will change elections results?
in which part.y are you?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
7 of your members joined SPA ... that could easily be seen as an agreement between sheeptar and your leader, about some stuff ... becouse of that, they try to flamme with comments, blaming you and SPA
no. I'm pretty sure our party will win
mappina de puta madre scrive:
your part.y is AW?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
yes it is ... but do not see these as a political talk ... you asked me to help you and im not trying to win you over ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
no I don't think you are trying to win me over
I know, but politics here are part of the game I would say
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
yes ... even if you joined AW ... SPA would see this as an agreement as well ... so I advis you to stay out of it at least for 2 more days ....
mappina de puta madre scrive:
we received some message asking if we want to create a part.y in austria
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
ohh ?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
the answer was no
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
i understand ... probably he was trying to explainpolitical situation in Austria
briefly
and from what I read it must have been a AW member?
If you look at the message, the last sentence isn't really important ... if you answered you that you do not intend to create a political party I would worry too much about the last one ... probably a funny reamkr or smthng
wouldn't
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Was he asking you to join AW? Seems like political war is really fierce
are you still here?
mappina de puta madre scrive:

yes I'm trying to find again the message
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
ok
mappina de puta madre scrive:
that's more or less all the message:
What i am really interested in is, on which side would the italians in austria be if austria and italy were in war?
and do you intend to create your own political par in austria?
a lot of active players, have left the socialist par , and have formed Alternative Way, people in the other opposition par are mostly 15 year old nationalistsVery
but you have to have them dont you

the first part is quite strange
why this should ask on which side we would be in case of war between Austria and Italy?
now you are no more there
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
just came back
well the war can occur ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
why?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
we are not thinking about it ... but Italy might attac us
mappina de puta madre scrive:
no
that's not possible
I know the president
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
I'm not stating your plans here ...
it could happen in 6, 10 months ...
who know what will be happening there
mappina de puta madre scrive:
if we continue like this of course
it seems almost that you want this (not you as matic)
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
but you could be still here ... so he was asking you, if you would support italy or uastria ... how dedicated you are to your country ... what would you do in this case
IF it ever happened
mappina de puta madre scrive:
matic
what you woud do if the eSlovenia would exist?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
we have plans for that
it will exist ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
you want to change eAustria in eSlovenia?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
we are thinking about it ... though it doesn't seem fair to the real Austrians, so we are searching for alternatives ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
but do we have real austrians in game?
I don't see them
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
they were ...didn't you say you were from austira?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
I live in austria in my real life
I'm in Vienna
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
so aren't you a real Austiran ?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
I'm italian
from napoli
but I live here since 4 years
certo che ragazzi, per noi è davvero impossibile capirli.
Veramente una lingua del cazzo
Il mio informatore () dice che nell'articolo secondo lei parlano del fatto che socialismo e nazionalismo non sono nazismo. Poi parlano di patriottismo, eccetera. Insomma, retorica.

Però non è propriamente madre lingua, anzi, perciò ste traduzioni alla cazzo son da prendere alla leggera. Di più non son riuscito a cavarle fuori.
Va beh, quindi parlano di cagate.
Adesso però ci vuole una linea da seguire.
Come prendiamo il monito di rimanere fuori dalla diatriba politica?
imho:

1) partito da takeoverare e mandare gente in parlamento.
2) le aziende dei nostri avversari dove si trovano? facciamo sindaco uno di noi e pompiamogli le tasse. Oppure al contrario: se noi siamo a salisburgo vediamo chi altri c'è e (se conviene) si azzera tutto.
3) il punto 1 e 2 si possono ottenere se finanziamo migrazioni in austria dei dipendenti della vecchia Edile (o almeno i più skillati) e la rifondiamo lì.
Sul fatto che tutta la vecchia edile vada spostata in austria non credo ci sia nemmeno da discutere, qui dobbiamo deciderci e in fretta.
E dobbiamo essere in tanti.
Vi assicuro che sto buttanto dentro cataste di gente ma non posso far miracoli
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
ohh I see
well we will try to make things as fair as possible if I will have a say in them ...
we don't want to lose our companies and newspapers and parties ... but I think that I found an alternative ...
but lets get back to previous stuff
it is a good question actually
who would you support - - - IF - - - ( ) the war ever broke out ...?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
i can only asnswer you as mappina not as group
I'm against war
I believe in diplomacy
If you want to know if NGI austria will support a war against Italy you have to ask bisiacco not me
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
i don't think it matters that much, at least now ...
im pretty sure you would supprot italy, it is you homeland ...
but at least you understand his question now ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
I understand that you are thinking to attack Italy somehow
you said that you want to create again Slovenia
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
no you misunderstood me somewhere
mappina de puta madre scrive:
if that I'm happy to hear from you
where will you take regions to recreate slovenia?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
slvoenia will eb created in V1 of erepublik, as promised by admins ... it was that I waa talknig about ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
you said war in 8-10 months
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
damn ... Now I told you our secret plans ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:

SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
i said that we do not know what might happen in that time ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
yes
could be that Italy and slovenia will be side by side to defend austrian territory from enemies
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
could be ...
if austirans won't be able to take care for themselves
of*
mappina de puta madre scrive:
it seems not looking at the last president
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
ohh yes ... mr voXx ...
he's a bad fellow
mappina de puta madre scrive:
I've only read newspaper abouf
and I found it outragieos
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
yep ... and it seems he is still active ...
http://www.erepublik.com/profile-9931.html
hiw wellnes is up at 95
mappina de puta madre scrive:
how it is possible? where is he now?
why the admins didn't do anything
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
hes still in Eisenstadt,
mappina de puta madre scrive:
doing what?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
don't know ... they don't care much if you ask me ... we sent countless letters infrming them that our president no longer exists ... NOONE got a SINGLE reply
mappina de puta madre scrive:
that's a shame
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
we asked them to put a temporary leader or to hold elections
...
you see where we stand now ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
right
who is your candidate as president?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
AW's?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
yes
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
nejcman
mappina de puta madre scrive:
is he one that was attacking us?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
no
mappina de puta madre scrive:
what is his position?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
he is currently in Montenegro on vacation ... but he will return before election take palce
...
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
I have not experienced general elections yet ... so I don't really know how they work ... if you must be a party member or you can vote independant as well ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:

I think, as I understood, that parties presents theri candidates
then they are the elections that are public
on the base of percentage of votes
you will have candidates in parlamente
so yes, common votes count
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
so you vote 2 times?
first for the president and then for the party?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
no
I think that each part.y has a candidate as president
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
yes
mappina de puta madre scrive:
the part.y that gets more votes will have the president
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
yes ... but what aobut congress votes?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
this will be in percentage
if your part.y has 50% of the total votes will have tot places in parlamente
I think
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
hmm

ndr: io davvero non so come si elegga il presidente
mappina de puta madre scrive:
so why dejan attack us?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
otherwise you will be draged in and it won't be pretty for any of us ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
why he doesn't simply attack the other part.y?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
becouse the opposing party got an agreemnt with you ... if not of political nature at least a formal one ...
if he accepts you as good citzens he accepts this agreement as a good one ... and thus actually giving SPA + points ...
I understand why he is doing this ... but that does not mean I agree
mappina de puta madre scrive:
so it is all that dejan is afraid that if we join SPA he will loose election...
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
yes
mappina de puta madre scrive:
do you know if dejan asked bisiacco to join his part.y?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
no ... did he?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
and if not why he didn't ask if we are so important in these elections?
I don't know really
I'm asking you
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
is that PM his ... about which you were asking me before?
mappina de puta madre scrive:
yes
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
then he did ask you ... hepointed oout that both other parties are useless and the only way is AW
he just didn't state it clearly
mappina de puta madre scrive:
ah
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
but probably when he saw your cooperation with SPA he tried to make you look as bad as he could ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
nice
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
thus making SPA look bad
and once again ... my recommendation ... stay out of it
mappina de puta madre scrive:
and if we join dejan part.y how dejan will react?
we will be angel?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
I do not know ... I would have to ask him
mappina de puta madre scrive:
that's absurd in politics
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
I already did ... an hour ago or so ... but he will reply tommorow ... probably
after talking to you it seemd you might be a valuable member of our party ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:

SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
so I asked what our postion towads you was ...
and wainting for reply
mappina de puta madre scrive:
me as mappina or me as NGI?
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
well firstly you, as mappina ... since I only got to know you and not whole group ... and I'm not sure if I can think of them all the same as you ...
mappina de puta madre scrive:
we all are not bad
so, let's do it like this matic
tomorrow I will explain the situation to bisiacco and the head members of our group
I hope they will decide for the best for all of us
but it is important that you tal.k with bisiacco tomorrow
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
ok
mappina de puta madre scrive:
that at least dejan tries to tal.k and not only to offend
let's hope tomorrow will bring good things then
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
i agree
mappina de puta madre scrive:
it was a pleasure tal.k with you
have nice dreams
SwordFish [United as 1, divided by 0.] scrive:
same here good night

signori, ora vado a nanna
sto lavoro extra da diplomatico spero sia utile a tutti voi per capire meglio come schierarsi.
imho i giochi non sono ancora fatti. e io preferirei stare dalla parte di chi davvero vuol fare qualcosa se proprio dobbiamo, e non rischiare di essere la causa scatenante di qualche casino.
ultima cosa: io leverei il log msn con sheeptar dal forum pubblico
that's all guys
goodnight
si ma questi stanno messi come nel medioevo cazzo... riassumendo credo di poter dire che la loro idea di campagna elettorale sia "io ce l'ho più lungo del tuo" e "non alleatevi con gli altri altrimenti sono cazzi e vi dichiariamo guerra".

io, che la diplomazia non so dove stia di casa, farei un'alleanza segreta con uno stato confinante all'austria e farei partire da lì l'invasione. da quello che ho capito, il costo di una guerra dipende anche dal numero di abitanti dello stato che fa partire l'invasione, quindi che so... facciamo un fischio agli svizzeri (che sono pochi), li paghiamo per il disturbo (in gold o in territori conquistati a fine guerra) e tipo 5 minuti dopo l'inizio della guerra ci trasferiamo in massa da loro per metterlo sagacemente nel culo a quegli stronzi di merda degli sloveni. Ovviamente chiedendo, tramite il nostro governo, supporto militare da parte dall'alleanza mediterranea... o anche un nulla osta.

che fosse per me in 4 ore (3 se non c'è traffico) sono sul confine austriaco (ma anche sloveno, la distanza più o meno è quella) con le bombe a mano per far saltare in aria quella manica di testine di cazzo sono un po' razzista anche nei giochi online
veramente mi sa che scateniamo un casino in qualunque delle due fazioni decidiamo di stare

e no, non sei razzista nemmeno un pochino