[APPLE TV] Ted Lasso

sull’aereo sta leggendo, mi sembra di aver letto, un libro dal titolo How to change your mind

Cmq :bua:

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Ovviamente la greedy corporate deve spremere.

Che qualcosa facessero, visto il successo della serie originale, era ovvio. E se devo scegliere fra lo spin off qui sopra e un sequel, lo spin off vince sempre. :asd:

E’ piaciuto anche a me il finale, così come tutta la stagione, ma

solo a me è sembrato che l’arco di redenzione di Nate sia gestito un po’ frettolosamente?

No, e’ una cosa che ho notato anche io e che hanno sollevato in parecchi online a quanto ho visto. Non che sia stato a contare i tweet e topic in giro ma il feeling era che fosse un punto sollevato da diverse persone.

Un take interessante sul discorso “nate redemption arc”. Che onestamente mi sembra in linea con il mood della serie.

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Nate Arc too quick?

I’ve been rewatching season 3 and the handling of Nate, which initially angered me, has really grown on me. Even once I realized that that Nate’s story was never about Nate earning redemption (but rather Richmond choosing to forgive him and him, using the lessons Ted instilled, to find confidence, work past his self-esteem issues, and become his best self), I still struggled with it. It was too quick, it was too haphazard. They skipped too many steps. To go from the first West Ham game to begging him back seemed off.

But on rewatch I started to wonder: was that a feature, not a glitch?

Ted never struggles with forgiving Nate. Even when he confronts Nate in season 2 — he is not angry or vindictive. He asks “what did I do?” and “what have I got to learn?” We never see Ted angry at Nate. Not even once in this whole series. It’s because Ted forgave him the second that Trent pressed “send” on that text. Ted realizes that people have their own struggles and problems and we should give them grace and forgiveness, even in their worst moments, while expecting nothing in return (or even for them to change). Forgiveness, like any heartfelt gift, is something better for the giver than the receiver. Ted knows that. And over the course of three seasons, Ted taught AFC Richmond that.

And with that in mind, of course Nate was easily forgiven, despite doing very little in the course of the season to earn it. Because that’s the message. Forgiveness should be given freely. When you forgive someone you unburden yourself as much as them. Treating it as something to be withheld until it is adequately paid for is equally damaging to the wronged party because it makes it that much harder to let go of your anger.

And that leads me to the meta of it all. We as the viewer got so caught up on the journey we expected to be on, felt entitled to. Nate hurt the viewer as much as he did our beloved Richmond. He needed to be punished! He needed to be at his lowest point! He needed to crawl his way up and earn redemption and only then could he be forgiven. But if we did it right we would’ve seen Nate’s struggles and, while not condoning his actions, forgiven him for them. We were so caught up looking for what we expected, we forgot to just do what we ought to do and forgive.

I am someone who holds a grudge. Always have been. But this show has made me reflect on how much I want to let go of that anger by forgiving. Even when Rupert gets his comeuppance with the crowd chanting “wanker”, there is a very quick shot of Ted looking on in empathy rather than satisfaction. In the first watch through, I figured there may be a deleted scene where Ted teaches him a lesson and sets Rupert on the right course. But that wasn’t the point. The point was to show that Ted can even forgive someone like Rupert without any conditions or contrition. I want to be a person who can forgive the Rupert Mannions of the world — not condone them or excuse them of their accountability, but forgive them.

If the world were more like Ted Lasso we’d all be better for it. So that is what I am going to try to do. I’m going to try others like Ted treated Nate. I won’t be perfect (no one is, not even Ted, he held on to his anger toward his mother for years). But I’m gonna do my best to be my best self.

Anyway, to the fellow Diamond Dogs who read this thread and want to chime in with thoughts or their own struggles/successes in forgiving, I appreciate you!

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Concordo.

Però devo dire che a me non è sembrato rushato. Sarà perchè io ci sono passato per quel tipo di depressione ma l’episodio in cui Nate torna a casa dei suoi mi fa venire il magone.

Quello che mi rode il culo invece è la “redemption” del padre di Jamie. Lui si meritava molto peggio. :wall:

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La scena del violino :lode:

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Il piunto di vista è interessante, e sicuramente ci sta che Ted perdoni Nate subito, è perfettamente nelle corde di come ci hanno mostrato Ted per tutte e tre le stagioni.
Ma rimane secondo me un po’ troppo rapido il cambiamento di Nate da pseudo villain a nuovamente tenero amicone di tutti: quello che è poco mostrato è il suo cambiamento, il suo percorso. Ma magari è solo una mia impressione.

A tempo perso ho rincominciato la serie ed l’apprezzo ancor di più:
Che viso stupendo.
La puntata delle freccette :lode:

Appena finita madonna i lacrimoni :cry:

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Pare sia in cantiere una quarta stagione

https://x.com/deadline/status/1827448680057635023?s=46

pericoloso ma :madsaw:

Prima puntata della nuova season out :lode: