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Old 10th January 2019, 17:53   #211
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Ma chi lo dice ?
Tutti gli store hanno pure le chiavi. L' Epic no?

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Old 10th January 2019, 18:03   #212
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Ma chi lo dice ?
Tutti gli store hanno pure le chiavi. L' Epic no?
No.
Gli altri store hanno le chiavi perchè steam permette di generarne gratuitamente un numero infinito.
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Old 11th January 2019, 21:43   #213
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https://twitter.com/galyonkin/status...07010964025346

Questi son fuori di cotenna.
Se non ho capito male, vogliono che il costo di cambio valuta lo paghi il cliente, mentre tutti gli altri client lo pagano a monte.

Già è passata come normalità lammerda 1$=1€, adesso ci becchiamo il costo dello "sportello bancario" dell'azienda?
Spero di aver capito male perché sennò questi credono davvero d'esser sbarcati a Console Peasant City.
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Old 11th January 2019, 21:58   #214
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A quanto pare aveva ragione il buon vecchio Tim, il 30% è troppo, col 12% si riesce proprio a far tutto

Dai prossima feature fixano sta roba
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Old 12th January 2019, 09:16   #215
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Ma come, che fine ha fatto l'innovativa idea dei due refund annuali rigenerabili?
Era così interessante...
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Old 12th January 2019, 10:40   #216
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https://twitter.com/galyonkin/status...07010964025346

Questi son fuori di cotenna.
Se non ho capito male, vogliono che il costo di cambio valuta lo paghi il cliente, mentre tutti gli altri client lo pagano a monte.

Già è passata come normalità lammerda 1$=1€, adesso ci becchiamo il costo dello "sportello bancario" dell'azienda?
Spero di aver capito male perché sennò questi credono davvero d'esser sbarcati a Console Peasant City.
E infatti io compro da gog perché mantiene un cambio reale e, in caso non riesca, ti restituisce la differenza per futuri acquisti.
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Old 12th January 2019, 12:31   #217
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Questi son fuori di cotenna.
Se non ho capito male, vogliono che il costo di cambio valuta lo paghi il cliente, mentre tutti gli altri client lo pagano a monte.
"As a developer I would rather eat the cost of charges to make sure our players don't pay more than the sticker price for our games. Is this something you see as being possible?"

Risposta:
"It would require some extra configuration on our part, but it should be possible. Not sure why you'd want to sponsor payment methods that can take up to 25% of the transaction, though."


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Old 13th January 2019, 15:05   #218
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Going through the aforementioned podcast with Galyonkin and a bunch of really interesting tidbits came up already.

EGS will not focus on discovery like Valve. Instead, they will have a curated front page like the App Store. The primary way of "discovering" games will be developers giving out keys to streamers through EGS. Streamers of course are inventivized to "sell" games because they can get a cut of the sale.

You will also eventually be able to follow games and get notifications about big updates and such, which may help get visibility to your game.

Cloud saves coming around February.

By the end of 2019, EGS will open to self-publishing.

EGS will give developers as much info on players as is legally possible. He mentioned something about being able to see what other games consumers are playing. I'm not sure this would be allowed by default under GDPR however.

This data will not be publicly available. There will be an API that can be scraped to facilitate a potential "Epic Spy" but they will not offer that service themselves.

The launch build of games are tested for playability.

A little hazy on this part, but, from what I understood, EGS is currently also doing off-site marketing for the games that are on their store. I don't recall if that's just for exclusives. Don't believe they said anything about that once the store goes open for self publishing.

No massive seasonal sale events like on Steam. This is said to kill sales for games that don't do a discount in that period as well as for new games. Instead, games on sale will be featured alongside the regular stuff.
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Old 13th January 2019, 15:39   #219
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Old 13th January 2019, 16:11   #220
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EGS will not focus on discovery like Valve. Instead, they will have a curated front page like the App Store. The primary way of "discovering" games will be developers giving out keys to streamers through EGS. Streamers of course are inventivized to "sell" games because they can get a cut of the sale.
Questo particolare, comunque, insieme all'altra notizia sulle diverse metodologie di pagamento, fanno capire che con quello split così basso, 12/88, non ci si può giostrare più di tanto, gran parte delle features che Steam offre automaticamente non sono sostenibili.
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Old 13th January 2019, 16:17   #221
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Io vorrei capire cosa ci sarebbe mai da dover scoprire, manco parlassimo di trovare un ago nel pagliaio.

Hanno uno store che non va nemmeno vicino a superare le due cifre come catalogo di giochi disponibili. Grazie al cazzo non ne sentono la necessità al momento di inserire strumenti e algoritmi per la scoperta di giochi. E' semplicemente un modo un po' goffo per non far soffermare l'attenzione dei lettori sul fatto che al momento il loro negozietto ha gli scaffali vuoti.
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Old 13th January 2019, 16:42   #222
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E per completare:
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About interacting with influencers, sending keys, referral cuts.

Currently 5% default, can change this as high as 100%. You can set it at 0% as well, but at the moment 5% will in any case be covered by Epic.

After a while, Galyonkin expects market standards to develop, e.g. for indies a 20% cut but for larger publisher backed games 5%.
Quindi, alla faccia dei "più soldi agli sviluppatori".
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Old 13th January 2019, 17:38   #223
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Streamers of course are inventivized to "sell" games because they can get a cut of the sale.
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Old 13th January 2019, 18:03   #224
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l'Epic Game Store fa cagare... l'ho utilizzato per giocare a Paragon e l'ho odiato
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Old 14th January 2019, 21:16   #225
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